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To: taildragger
No, that's not a VAT framework. Don't get me wrong, the 1099 series information-reporting forms could be used as the barebones skeleton of some sort of a VAT crediting system, but as it stands, it's not sufficient unto itself.

I'm not sure what game the fascists, I mean democrats, are up to with requiring that employers report the value of insurance provided, although my gut tells me that that is a prelude to treating the value of employer-provided insurance as taxable income (currently it's not treated as taxable income - even though it should be in a sane tax system, since it's the functional equivalent of your employer sending a part of your paycheck directly to your electric company, for example, which would still result in the entire paycheck being taxable income to you), or else is a means for the fascists, I mean democrats, to identify private individuals who are "getting too much" and therefore should be subjected to even more punitive "taxes" than the rest (union members excepted as usual, of course).

The language regarding the 1099 information-reporting requirements are most likely intended to parallel the employee-reporting requirements in cases where a business uses independent contractors who receive part of their compensation in the form of health insurance coverage.

In the example that you give, the cabinet-maker who pays $601 for cabinets to be installed in your building would not need to file a form 1099 (technically, it would be a Form 1099-MISC) because payments for the purchase of merchandise are generally not reportable payments. See the 2010 instructions to Form 1099-MISC here. Absent a statutory provision or an IRS regulation that expressly extended reporting coverage to amounts paid for the purchase of merchandise, I do not think that the provision in the new Obastardcare legislation would require your hypothetical cabinet guy to file a form 1099 to report the purchase of those new cabinets for you.

Three Rs II, small version
12 posted on 03/31/2010 9:12:53 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander; taildragger
It looks like, effective 2013, payments exceeding $600 made to individuals and corporations will be reportable on 1099-MISC, and will include goods and services.

"Reporting of Payments to Corporations and for Goods.

Effective for payments made beginning in 2013, the Reform Act expands the current Form 1099 information reporting requirement for compensation paid for services to individuals and partnerships to payments made to corporations and to payments made for goods as well as services

Health care reform has arrived

18 posted on 03/31/2010 10:15:29 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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