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Recession over?
me ^ | 3/30/2010 | faucetman

Posted on 03/30/2010 11:04:58 AM PDT by faucetman

I just heard on the news that the Consumer Confidence Index was up for March at 52.5, up 6.1. I don't really follow this or understand it, but I usually notice whether it is up or down. Then they added that it is normally around 90! WHAT? I had not ever heard that before. I thought I would look into it a little bit.

Wikipedia good enough for my casual inquiry.

"The Consumer Confidence Index was started in 1967 and is benchmarked to 1985=100. This year was chosen because it was neither a peak nor a trough. The Index is calculated each month on the basis of a household survey of consumers' opinions on current conditions and future expectations of the economy. Opinions on current conditions make up 40% of the index, with expectations of future conditions comprising the remaining 60%."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Confidence_Index

So 100 is AVERAGE. I then found a graph at http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/consumer_confidence.htm

This page shows me the three graphs that represent the CCI. Right away I notice that the PRESENT SITUATION confidence was ONLY 26! (remember average year 1985 = 100)

How do you get an abysmal confidence number up? You average in a high EXPECTATIONS number. Which is more likely to be true?, What you saw happen or what you hope will happen? Let's give hope 60% and reality 40%.

The charts show what looks like a small TARP/stimulus bumps and more or less flatlines on Obama's presidency.

The recession is over? Someone better PROVE it to the American people because so far, they are not buying it. (pun intended)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cci; confidence; consumer; economy; index
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1 posted on 03/30/2010 11:04:58 AM PDT by faucetman
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To: faucetman

The recession is barely getting started.


2 posted on 03/30/2010 11:07:44 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: faucetman

It’s a poll based on calls to 5,000 people....

I wouldn’t get too excited, soon those 30 and under are going to come to the realization they were suckered by Obama and have to give up 17% of their paychecks for the government takeover of healthcare.


3 posted on 03/30/2010 11:08:20 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: faucetman

Bricks of Bizarre Kibal must be in town. Haven’t seen that since the 70’s. That would explain the confusion.


4 posted on 03/30/2010 11:11:31 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: faucetman

Sitting here looking for a job at present. I have never been out of work involuntarily in all my life and 30 years of work. I see jobs out there so maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I DON’T want a government job.


5 posted on 03/30/2010 11:11:36 AM PDT by doodad
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To: GeronL

I’m confident that consumers are not confident consumers. To be a confident consumer, you have to confident in your consuming. This all so unexpected.<!/GREENSPAN>


6 posted on 03/30/2010 11:11:42 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: faucetman
Uuhh . . . it's just a number. Made of other numbers. One of them, the expectations number, is simply calculated by asking folks if they expect the economy to get better or worse over the next (whatever it is, I don't know) period of time.

There's no conspiracy to inflate the expectations number in order to affect the confidence index. In fact, confidence index looks right about where it should be.

7 posted on 03/30/2010 11:11:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: central_va

I am about to confidently eat a cold weinie sandwich


8 posted on 03/30/2010 11:15:08 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: faucetman

Recession? This is the new normal. I getting bell bottoms and gold chain, dude.


9 posted on 03/30/2010 11:15:33 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: faucetman

Methinks no...

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=p&tbs=nws%3A1&q=layoffs&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=2f7874af88fd208


10 posted on 03/30/2010 11:15:45 AM PDT by TSgt (When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GeronL

I think you should curb your irrational exuberance.


11 posted on 03/30/2010 11:18:41 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: faucetman

Recession over?.....

Land for sale in Florida.....


12 posted on 03/30/2010 11:21:14 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: faucetman
The media, ordinarily illiterate and dishonest on the subject, has performed LAUGHABLY on the economy since Obama was coronated.

For example EVERY DAMN DAY ABC News tells us we've "turned the corner on the recession", and then offers a bit of evidence that has absolutely nothing to do with whether we're in or out of one. Today was the consumer confidence measure.

Honestly, I don't know how they can do it with a straight face.

13 posted on 03/30/2010 11:21:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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oh crap. And I just added a banana.

Too much consumin’ goin on!


14 posted on 03/30/2010 11:22:04 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Freddd; All

What about the poor folks who can’t be called because they don’t have phones. Bet their confidence is really up, hah!!


15 posted on 03/30/2010 11:26:00 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: doodad

the ONLY sector that is seeing actual tangible job growth is GOVERNMENT jobs... Self-serving bastards.


16 posted on 03/30/2010 11:27:01 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Freddd; All

What about the poor folks who can’t be called because they don’t have phones. Bet their confidence is really up, hah!!


17 posted on 03/30/2010 11:28:43 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: skeeter
I don't know how they can do it with a straight face.

Botox.

18 posted on 03/30/2010 11:30:43 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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19 posted on 03/30/2010 11:33:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: faucetman

We have a long ways to go before reaching the bottom of Obamao’s pit.


20 posted on 03/30/2010 11:38:41 AM PDT by pallis
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