Posted on 03/27/2010 5:18:42 PM PDT by Steelfish
Christians Stand Up To Glenn Beck
By Jim Wallis Saturday, March 27
Glenn Beck has picked a fight with me, but he recently started a more troubling battle with the nation's churches with his criticism that "social justice" is "code" for "communism" and "Nazism," and that Christians should leave their churches if they preach, practice or even have the phrase on their Web site.
While Beck initially claimed that "social justice is a perversion of the Gospel," he now suggests his concern was really the association of the phrase with "Big Government." He even adds that when "social justice" refers simply to individual charity, it is permissible to him. But for millions of people, this is not a joking matter. Christians across the theological and political spectrum believe that social justice is central to the teachings of Jesus and at the heart of biblical faith. Because Christians couldn't "turn in" their pastors to "church authorities" as Beck suggested (the pope would turn himself into . . . himself), many have started turning themselves in to Beck as "social justice Christians" -- 50,000 at last count.
Journalists, cable and radio talk shows, and even Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert have reported on or spoofed Beck's attempt to discredit this concept. What might be lost in all this are the facts that a commitment to social justice unites Christian churches of different doctrinal and political beliefs. Even leaders in Beck's own church and scholars of Mormonism have made it clear that they believe social justice is integral to their faith and that they want it known he doesn't speak for the church.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
...rancor is not healthy for the soul....
What is the difference between today's progressive Christian, and a PRESBYTERIAN Christian of the 1830's?
Sorry; that's unfair; for you do not know what a PRESBYTERIAN Christian of the 1830's was described as.
How about this:
What is the definition, in your own words, of a progressive Christian today?
The FUNDAMENTALIST Mormons seems to know this instinctively.
Too bad that the SLC bunch of MORMONs were so afraid of the US Government back in the 1890's.
DANG!!
I missed it AGAIN!
PLEASE!!
Give us that definition that is SO sorely needed!!
The other 3 instances recorded in the BIBLE of 'LTNATS' are NOT in the context of aiding anyone.
Luke 10:25-37 niv
The Parable of the Good Samaritan
25On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. "Teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"26"What is written in the Law?" he replied. "How do you read it?"
27He answered: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'[a]; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[b]"
28"You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."
29But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"
30In reply Jesus said: "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he fell into the hands of robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, took him to an inn and took care of him. 35The next day he took out two silver coins[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. 'Look after him,' he said, 'and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.'
36"Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?"
37The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him."
Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise."
The Samaritan paid from his OWN pocket to nurse the fellow back to health; he did NOT enlist the aid of his 'neighbors'.
Translation:
I have no answers for the questions you've posed.
Jim Wallis is no Christian. He is a fake.
Jim Wallis, political activist, best known as the founder and editor of Sojourners magazine
his advocacy tends to focus on issues of peace and social justice, earning him his primary support from the religious left. Wallis is also known for his opposition to the religious right’s fiscal and foreign policies
Wallis has been arrested 22 times for acts of civil disobedience.[10] He was involved in antiwar activism during the Vietnam War, and wrote in 1974 that it was a “brutal, criminal war.”
And Wallis has received criticism for calling the United States “a fallen nation” in his 1976 book Agenda for Biblical People.
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Evangelical Christian ministry that preaches radical leftwing politics
Championed Communist revolution in Central America
As one of its first acts, Sojourners formed a commune in the Washington, D.C. neighborhood of Southern Columbia Heights. Members shared their finances, participated in various activist campaigns, and organized events at both the neighborhood and national levels. The themes of these campaigns, echoed monthly in the pages of the group’s in-house publication Sojourners, centered on attacking U.S. foreign policy, denouncing American “imperialism,” and extolling Marxist revolutionary movements in the Third World.
Giving voice to Sojourners’ intense anti-Americanism, Jim Wallis called the U.S. “… the great power, the great seducer, the great captor and destroyer of human life, the great master of humanity and history in its totalitarian claims and designs.”
In the 1980s the Sojourners community actively embraced “liberation theology,” rallying to the cause of communist regimes that had seized power especially in Latin America, with the promise of bringing about the revolutionary restructuring of society. Particularly attractive for the ministry’s religious activists was the Communist Sandinista regime that took power in Nicaragua in 1979. Clark Pinnock, a disaffected former member of Sojourners, revealed in 1985 that the community’s members had been “100 percent in favor of the Nicaraguan revolution.”
Opposing the policies of the Reagan administration that aimed to undercut the Sandinista regime, Sojourners initiated a program called “Witness For Peace,” under whose auspices Americans traveled to Nicaragua and returned with reports of humanitarian disasters wrought by the Reagan-backed anti-Communist guerrilla forces. The Sojourners delegates insisted that any efforts to undermine Sandinista power violated the Nicaraguan people’s “right to self-determination.”
The ministry also reviled welfare reform as a “mean-spirited Republican agenda” characterized by “hatred toward the poor” and mounted a defense of affirmative action.
Sojourners is a member organization of the Win Without War and United for Peace and Justice anti-war coalitions. It condemns the Guantanamo Bay detention center, where several hundred terrorist suspects are being held by the U.S. government. Said the Sojourners website on June 10, 2005:
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7018
this Wallis guy has been known as a liberation theolog lefty type by anyone on this forum for many years
he is always trotted out by the media as a “Christian”
i figured u meant Mass.
The intent of stealing is inherently ignoble, and giving stolen property to another does not improve the original intent - because, in the sense that I am under obligation to you if you give me something, even when giving the property to the other person you are retaining the credit for the value your recipient has received.
Oh wow...
You really are clueless aren’t you.
“social justice is central to the teachings of Jesus and at the heart of biblical faith.”
Could we have a scripture reference to back that up?
Care to explain that comment?
I don’t care for Wallis, Wright, OR Beck.
And the cult of personality that surrounds Beck on here is a lot closer to Obama’s cult of personality and just as blind.
And the cult of personality that surrounds Beck on here is a lot closer to Obama’s cult of personality and just as blind.
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As a citizen what are the principles of liberty do you practiced and adhere too?
It seems it is easy to label those who love their country the Lord gave them as a cult!
By your comments it shows you do not know anything about Glenn Beck accept the he is Mormon and that is a reason enough to marginalize him.
There are many patriots who have join Beck and others who are of different faiths in the cause to defend America’s Freedom.
Social justice passage just now claimd and cheered on Meet The Press. Time to boycott the sponsors on both MTP and Face The Nation!
Beck cuts through the muck to reach the seriously indoctrinated with unrevised American History. If he uses tennis shoes, blackboard props and show biz to get his points across, I cheer his genius! He is doing a service to his country, if the people will only listen.
It is heart-breaking what has happened to the Church, and has made me think twice about converting. I believe that the Church’s teachings haven’t changed, but it is now infested with those who openly defy its teachings.
Dittos.
I highly recommend that you watch the Eternal Word Television Network - EWTN (if you haven’t been already) especially the Daily Mass (live at 8am Eastern Time, reruns throughout the day), Mother Angelica Live Classics, and Father John Corapi. http://www.ewtn.com/
EWTN is headquartered in Irondale, Alabama (just outside Birmingham) and is as conservative Catholic as you can get in the U.S.
Thanks! I am a big fan of and contributor to EWTN.
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