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1 posted on 03/27/2010 6:51:45 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 03/27/2010 6:56:05 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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ping


3 posted on 03/27/2010 7:13:33 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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With the government so heavily involved in market manipulation through arbitrary control of science and technology, long term planning is no longer possible, or at least far less effective.

Exactly.....

.....Should our company build the coal or nuclear plant we KNOW is what we need BUT with the uncertainty of the current Administration and the permitting process it could end up being shelved at great expense?

-OR-

.....Should our company build a subsidized and unreliable wind farm that we KNOW is all the rage publicly with the knowledge that the lid will come off the GREEN MOVEMENT and the farm will eventually end up idled.

Long term large capital energy investment and security is presently being held hostage by your local greasy GreenPeace and USGBC activists.

4 posted on 03/27/2010 7:16:31 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To avoid break-down of the modern world, the IPCC must be condemned and steps taken to assure that similar activities are not started in the future.

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I agree!!

7 posted on 03/27/2010 7:59:27 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Must include a reference to one of my favorite websites....JoNova in Australia home of the skeptics hand book:

Help! How do I know?

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Help! How do I know?

IMAGE: Sceptical Scientist

IMAGE: Unsceptical Scientist

How do you tell a scientist from a non-scientist? Where does science end, and propaganda, politics, and opinion begin? You only need to know one thing:


Image: The Aim of Science

Straight away, this sorts the wheat from the weeds. We don’t learn about the natural world by calling people names or hiding data. We don’t learn by chucking out measurements in favor of opinions. We don’t learn by suppressing discussions, or setting up fake rules about which bits of paper count or which people have a licence to speak.

A transparent, competitive system where all views are welcome is the fastest way to advance humanity. The Royal Society is the oldest scientific association in the world. Its motto is essentially, Take No One’s Word For It. In other words, assume nothing; look at the data. When results come in that don’t fit the theory, a scientist chucks out his theory. A non-scientist has “faith”, he “believes” or assumes his theory is right, and tries to make the measurements fit. When measurements disagree, he ignores the awkward news, and “corrects”, or statistically alters, the data–always in the direction that keeps his theory alive.


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NOTES: This page was created as part of the booklet Global Bullies Want Your Money (The Skeptics Handbook, vol. II). It was inspired by requests from people who were obviously frustrated. They wanted a formula, a checklist, or a table: a way to know which side was right. The people who normally like to trust authority are the ones most likely to run into a brick wall in this debate. They trust the scientific method, but also trust the institutions, the processes, and the politics that have risen up to supposedly carry this method from it’s pure form into it’s practical output.  And the two sides are at loggerheads.

I trust the scientific method, but not the human institutions (they are subject to ambition, personality, money, and conflicts of interest).

In the end, the only real way to decide is to look at the evidence. But, if you have to figure out who to trust, if that’s your chosen short-cut, then at least this is a more systematic approach than trying to weigh up the resumes on each side.

The short killer summary: The Skeptics Handbook. The most deadly point: The Missing Hot Spot.


13 posted on 03/27/2010 8:37:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Reference Link....FR Thread:

Copenhagen summit: Is there any real chance of averting the climate crisis? ( James Hansen - 2009 )

14 posted on 03/27/2010 8:59:43 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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The IPCC agenda supports large-scale theft of public funding, a path to international economic chaos, and a plan for a New World Order devoid of freedom and effective democracy.

Wow, same thing as the Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda. Maybe they should get the same proposed treatment after November 2010: expulsion, impeachment, and imprisonment.
15 posted on 03/27/2010 10:09:01 AM PDT by aruanan
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“The IPCC agenda supports large-scale theft of public funding, a path to international economic chaos, and a plan for a New World Order devoid of freedom and effective democracy.”

Isn’t this the description of the Open Society that George Soros plans to establish with the help of his bought-and-paid-for Ayatollah Obama?


16 posted on 03/27/2010 10:20:17 AM PDT by abclily
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