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(Wisconsin AG)Van Hollen says Health Care law Unconstitutional; Dems fire back
WKOWTV.com ^ | Mar 25, 2010 | WKOWTV.com

Posted on 03/27/2010 4:28:13 AM PDT by Son House

Wisconsin Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen Thursday morning announced that his office is seeking the required authorization to bring an action to contest certain provisions of the federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

Van Hollen says the major problem is the law's requirement that individuals purchase health insurance or face a fine.

"That's unprecedented," he said. "No federal court to our knowledge has ever made a decision that that is an appropriate constitutional reach."

He says if that's allowed to stand the federal government could compel us to buy almost anything.

"They could say that everyone who can afford to buy an automobile must buy a General Motors automobile or be penalized under the Internal Revenue Service code," he said.

The leader of one liberal group scoffed at the idea.

"If you were to ask him to speculate on something he would be unwilling to do so, but now he's putting out fantastical theories in order to advance the Republican agenda," Scot Ross, executive director of One Wisconsin Now, said.

Scott Hassett, Van Hollen's Democratic opponent this fall, says challenges to the health care law are doomed to fail.

"There's a long line of cases going back to 1937 that have upheld similar actions," he said

Hassett says Van Hollen is playing partisan politics - a charge Van Hollen denied.

"Whenever I do something they don't like I'm being partisan," he said. "When I do something they like I'm being reasonable."

Assembly Majority Leader Tom Nelson, (D) Kaukauna, says Van Hollen is standing in the way of democracy.

"What they're trying to do is take a piece of legislation that was passed by an elected body and go to the courts to try to stop this," Nelson said.

Speaker Michael Sheridan and Senate Majority Leader Russ Decker both said they have no interest in authorizing the lawsuit.

"Right now, as it stands, our number one priority is job creation," Nelson said. "So we have more than enough work to try to get these bills passed and try to get people back to work."

Early Thursday afternoon, Governor Jim Doyle sent a letter to Van Hollen, denying his request.


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Thank God and our Countries founders for this document called the Constitution.

Assembly Majority Leader Tom Nelson, (D) Kaukauna, "What they're trying to do is take a piece of legislation that was passed by an elected body and go to the courts to try to stop this,"

Right on, buddy!



And just because it's a majority of the people that are not Democrats and know this bill fails on it Constitutionality, doesn't mean they shouldn't stand up for their Constitutional rights in court.

1 posted on 03/27/2010 4:28:13 AM PDT by Son House
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To: Son House

“Right now, as it stands, our number one priority is job creation,” Nelson said. “So we have more than enough work to try to get these bills passed and try to get people back to work.”

Don’t worry about the Constutionality, we’re busy with
Jobs, jobs, jobs. Go away son, ya bother me!

God these people are sickening.


2 posted on 03/27/2010 4:34:27 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Son House
"If you were to ask him to speculate on something he would be unwilling to do so, but now he's putting out fantastical theories in order to advance the Republican agenda," Scot Ross, executive director of One Wisconsin Now, said.

Article 1 Section 8 is not a fantastical theory! It lists specific powers granted to Congress. Regulating health care is not listed therefore per the 10th Amendment health care is a power regulated to the states. The people are not bound to comply with an unconstitutional act of Congress. This is the point people need to hammer home with their Congress critters!
3 posted on 03/27/2010 4:35:10 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: tet68

“crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality”

State of Illinois
Senate Transcript March 30, 2001

Page 87

http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

Obama “And if we’re placing a burden on the doctor that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as — as is necessary to keep that child alive, then we’re probably crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality.”


4 posted on 03/27/2010 4:35:37 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: tet68

tar and feathers

lots of tar and feathers


5 posted on 03/27/2010 4:44:11 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Son House

“They could say that everyone who can afford to buy an automobile must buy a General Motors automobile or be penalized under the Internal Revenue Service code,”


A better analogy would be to mandate that every American live in a house, or live in a house of a certain minimum size.

And if the precedent of mandated health insurance sticks, such laws ARE coming, ao that the commies in Washington can force us to pay for houses for the homeless, or those evicted.

Then there will be the law that every person residing in America MUST register as a citizen. So there will be no more illegal aliens to argue about.

Then the minimum size of the the houses will decrease to force all city dwellers into “Kruschev Blocks.” (I lived in one for two years near Vladivostok.)And then there will be a MAXIMUM size of dwelling mandated! The justification will be over-population and the environment.

Then because the housing will be kept to a bare minimum by mandate(!) the mandate to limit the size of families will be passed. This is already being taught and forced to a degree by the mandate of smaller cars! I would have to have THREE of the cars they now want us to buy for my family. . . and thus three licensed drivers. So drivers licenses will be limited to two per household, once licenses are effectively federalized. . . . errr . . . NATIONALIZED!

If mandated health insurance sticks we actually have NO more “federal” government. No more effective 10th amendment.

The full impact of the precedent of nationalized health care goes all the way to the one-child policy and totalitarianism.


6 posted on 03/27/2010 4:51:12 AM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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Gov. Doyle... the Peter Principle on full display. He’s leaving because of his corruption and ineptness. Doyle knew he’d get trounced in the next election.
7 posted on 03/27/2010 4:58:14 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: John Leland 1789

Didn’t some early U.S. city laws require people to have jobs or they would be run out of town or arrested? Since
that was struck down why wouldn’t this be?


8 posted on 03/27/2010 4:59:58 AM PDT by stumptalker
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“Didn’t some early U.S. city laws require people to have jobs or they would be run out of town or arrested?”


Actually that mandate to have a job is coming back, too, only on a national level, to force us to work in the factories building Amerigos (American Yugos), which we will have to be on a 10 year witing list to buy, as it was in the Soviet Union.

A Russian went into a car dealership in Moscow to buy a car on April 2, 1956. He was told it would be delivered on April 2, 1966.

The Russian car buyer asked, “Will that be in the morning or afternoon?”

The dealer, surprised, asked, “You have to wait ten years and you are worried about the time of day of the delivery?”

The car buyer answered, “Well, you see, the plumber is coming that morning to fix the toilet.”


9 posted on 03/27/2010 5:14:28 AM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: Son House

While it would be nice for every state to be able to sue, all it takes is one to stop this whole Communist takeover.


10 posted on 03/27/2010 5:21:27 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: John Leland 1789

Then the minimum size of the the houses will decrease to force all city dwellers into “Kruschev Blocks.”

^
You’ve certainly got an eye for the future, under Democrats. I’ve seen some huge European apartment buildings in Germany, so I could only guess these are about the same with dingy little apartments


11 posted on 03/27/2010 5:21:59 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: John Leland 1789
Found some; Category:Khrushchev houses http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Khrushchev_houses One of Premier Khrushchev's goal was to make modern apartments available to as many Soviet families as possible, as quickly at possible. To achieve that goal, the rate of housing construction was increased significantly compared to Stalin's era -- at the cost of getting rid of "architectural excesses" (anything non-utilitarian), using simpler floor plans and cheaper materials and construction methods, both in housing development and in public buildings. The iconic Khrushchoba (Хрущоба: "a Khrushchov's slum") is a cheaply built five-story building with 80 apartment, common in the 1960s-built neighborhoods all over Russia.
12 posted on 03/27/2010 5:25:12 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: stumptalker

At least in that situation, someone could leave that town and go to another place. In the Obamanightmarecare there are no other options. There are no other cities to go to. There are no options.


13 posted on 03/27/2010 5:43:51 AM PDT by madinmadtown
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To: Son House

Sounds like the jackass party in Wisc is terrified of this political hot potato. Polls are strongly against DeathCare up there and Feinstien is loosing to his GOP challenger now. Through in the AG wanting to sue. The jackass’s are not trying to shoutdown the AG as well as the people in Wisc.

If the jackasses are so confident that challenges will not be succuessful, why don’t they step aside and let the GOP embarrass itself? The jackasses want to shout down and silence the GOP on this subject QUICKLY because DeathCare is EXPLOSIVE. It was widely unpopular a month ago and it is getting moreso with eachpassing day. It is a chain reaction.

The Jackasses are trying to shout down and embarrass the opposition. BUT YOU CANNOT SHOUT DOWN TRUE ANGER AND WRATH ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS ROOTED IN PRINCIPLE AND FACTS.

This is your Waterloo Jackasses and it is getting worse with each passing day!


14 posted on 03/27/2010 5:44:01 AM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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To: madinmadtown

And don’t get me started on Comrade Doyle.


15 posted on 03/27/2010 5:45:01 AM PDT by madinmadtown
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To: Son House

Category:Khrushchev houses

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Khrushchev_houses


16 posted on 03/27/2010 5:47:19 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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"What they're trying to do is take a piece of legislation that was passed by an elected body and go to the courts to try to stop this,"

Just like segregation, eh?

17 posted on 03/27/2010 5:47:26 AM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: madinmadtown

Yeah, and they were actually some jobs to be filled too.


18 posted on 03/27/2010 5:48:30 AM PDT by stumptalker
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To: John Leland 1789

In our country that far out date will be when you can go to the doctor or retire.


19 posted on 03/27/2010 5:49:36 AM PDT by stumptalker
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To: Hoodat

Why doesn’t the GOP just say this who health care bill is illegal and Marxist and refuse to accept it. Close down the white house.


20 posted on 03/27/2010 5:50:02 AM PDT by jetson
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