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1 posted on 03/26/2010 12:49:54 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Huh? I don’t understand.


2 posted on 03/26/2010 12:50:58 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

That could begin to explain the mental disorder known as liberalism.


3 posted on 03/26/2010 12:50:59 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Happiness doesn't come from owning something; it comes from being a part of something)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

I never liked the word-recognition method. It doesn’t tell you why certain words sound as they do. To me, you have to learn the parts that make up the whole. Phonics is the way.


4 posted on 03/26/2010 12:54:10 PM PDT by Cheesel (So this how democracy dies...with thunderous applause, March 21, 2010)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

do you think this was all done by accident??

i don’t


5 posted on 03/26/2010 12:57:55 PM PDT by GeronL (All politicians are POS. Some are just piled higher and smell worse.)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

So, does spending hours and hours watching tv cause brain damage?


6 posted on 03/26/2010 12:59:06 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: DainBramage

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ping


7 posted on 03/26/2010 1:00:54 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat (Where is the light? Wonder if it's weeping somewhere...)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

For at least 4000 years we’d been successfully teaching children to read using phonics.

Suddenly in the middle of the 20th this became passe and had to be changed.

I doubt there’s anything more sinister here than theorists who want to make a name for themselves by developing “improved, modern” methods.


9 posted on 03/26/2010 1:10:21 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

It obviously does...people voted for Obama...


10 posted on 03/26/2010 1:13:52 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Apparently, attending Cornell Ag School (and pretending you went to Cornell University) can turn you into a raving lunatic like Keith Olbermann.


11 posted on 03/26/2010 1:16:51 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Sorry. You are full of it. Sight is how children instinctively learn to read.

I have no problem with phonics teaching. It’s a great way to teach a child who doesn’t know how to read.

But I learned to read by myself very early, and now I have witnessed 2 of my 3 children do it on their own as well. One is a bit of a genius and, from reading books, learned all of the letters by 18 months. From hearing his favorite books read to him over and over, he cracked the code of the words by age 2, and by 2.5 could read a newspaper. Something I was actively trying NOT to let him do, because the front pages were full of details from the O.J. Simpson trial!

My 2nd child learned to read in kindergarten, using a wonderful phonics program. I saw the progression and it was painless and just as thrilling for him when it started clicking.

My 3rd child was behind in every developmental milestone so we were not pushing reading at home, just homeschooling him with a lovely and relaxed, old-fashioned and non-academic kindergarten curriculum. Of course he was being read to every day. And HE cracked the code too! Suddenly he was asking what this word said, and that one, and then he could read simple books by himself, BOOM. He’s still behind in a lot of things but he is a very good reader with NO formal reading instruction.

The humans brain is an amazing, G-d-given gift. Do not think that any way, under any life conditions*, that our beautiful children crack the code of reading is in some way HARMFUL. Just control what they are reading.

*Here I am thinking of children in abuse situations, or captivity like poor Jaycie Duggar’s two children of rape, or wartime, etc.


14 posted on 03/26/2010 1:26:43 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Brain damage on the part of teachers can inflict bad education on students!!!


15 posted on 03/26/2010 1:40:31 PM PDT by handy old one (If you play in nature be prepared to be played with by nature!)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

You are so very right ! A good place to learn more about the Left’s involvement in “dumbing down” our children is Samuel Blumenfeld’s works, including “N.E.A.: Trojan Horse in American Education” and “The New Illiterates and How You Can Keep Your Child from Becoming One”, and also
“Is Public Education Necessary?”.

Sam Blumenfeld is a former teacher for the New York Public School system, who saw the problems of the system early in his career, (the kids weren’t learning to read correctly, using the Look and Say Method (for instance, remember Dick and Jane? Yep.. Dick and Jane used the Whole Language method, which is more commonly known as the LOOK SAY teaching method.)

Sam has since worked tirelessly to awake the public to the dangers of Public Education..his books are well researched, (with footnotes galore!)..the HISTORY of the modern Educational system is an eye-opener, for sure.

Most of the men who were involved in the formation of the modern public educational system were PROGRESSIVES (SOCIALISTS, in other words) who had an AGENDA. Even though they started as far back as the 1890’s, they didn’t see the achievement of the fruits of their labors until the people were sufficiently Dumbed Down to the point of electing a Socialist to the Presidency, in 2008. And, it WILL get worse - it will never get better, under the Liberal leadership of the N.E.A.(teachers unions) Conservatives have to abandon the Public School system altogether. The Public School system is broken and cannot be fixed.

I personally taught my daugter how to read when she was four years old, using Blumenfeld’s “ALPHAPHONICS” - the book costs 25 dollars, and took less than 6 months to teach her how to read ANYTHING.. Teaching True Phonics WORKS! Teaching The Whole Language Method (Look Say) will continue to produce Functional Illiterates who can’t THINK for themselves..which was the GOAL of the PROGRESSIVES who developed the Whole Language Methodology.

Sam Blumenfeld has produced a number of lectures on the History of the Modern Educational system; and the disaster of haveing an entire nation filled with functional illiterates, which is the result of teaching the WHOLE LANGUAGE methodology.. also, how to teach phonics correctly.. if any of ya’ll are interested in hearing these lectures, let me know, I’ll post them on mediafire, the, I’ll post the link here, so anyone can download them in Mp3 format to listen to them..


18 posted on 03/26/2010 1:59:14 PM PDT by Biblical Calvinist (Soli Deo Gloria !)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

ping for later


19 posted on 03/26/2010 2:18:58 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

I taught high school English for many years. It is my firm belief that different kids learn differently. Some learn to read using phonics, some by sight, some look-say. There are probably methods used we have no name for.

While I agree that much harm has been done to our public school students (and even some parochial and private school children) by poor teaching methods, I believe that the fault lies primarily in the “teacher training” conducted by colleges and universities.

Part of the problem seems to arise from sheer boredom on the part of teachers who believe that how and what they teach is more important than who they teach. If one concentrates on each individual student’s abilities, likes and dislikes, teaching becomes an ever new experience, year after year. Teaching like this is also very intensive and time consuming, something that many teachers are never made aware of.

This happens because the importance of knowing subject matter and understanding the most useful methods to teach it seems to be mind-numbingly dull. Elementary and high school teachers need to be reminded that their students are better served by learning the basics and leaving analyzing and interpretation to later in their educational careers.

It’s like learning to use a calculator without understanding how to add or subtract. The same situations exist in all subjects and levels of schools these day.

It’s a huge problem, but one that could be fixed fairly easily. Just re-educate the educators.


20 posted on 03/26/2010 3:05:16 PM PDT by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan. Pray the Rosary)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
I learned basic phonics in kindergarten. It has served me well in English, German, Welsh, French, Italian and Turkish. The mechanics differ slightly in each language, but the basic principles are the same. Irish and Scottish Gaelic have slightly more complex rules. The technique even works for Mandarin Chinese, Japanese and Arabic. The hurdle for a native English speaker is the different set of symbols that compress the alphabets in those languages.
24 posted on 03/26/2010 4:02:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

What is it that has produced all these adults who don’t know the difference between loose and lose, to, two and too, their, there and they’re, your and you’re, who put apostrophes in plurals and all the other purely goofy mistakes that would have had me flunking out of grade school?

While I’m at it whence came all the idiots who say things like, “five hundred times smaller” or “reduced up to three thousand percent”? If I had written stupid crap like that in the sixth grade I would have wound up in a home for the mentally retarded.


26 posted on 03/26/2010 5:08:53 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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