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New OPM task force to study pay gap
The Federal Times ^ | March 24, 2010 | Stephen Losey

Posted on 03/25/2010 9:48:13 AM PDT by Poundstone

The Obama administration's personnel chief has assigned a task force to come up with "ironclad" data showing that feds do not earn far more than their private-sector counterparts.

The move comes after organizations such as the libertarian Cato Institute and conservative lawmakers have criticized federal employees' pay, which they say is more than 50 percent higher on average than private-sector salaries.

Office of Personnel Management Director John Berry told Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, at a Senate Appropriations Committee that such statements are "misinformation" and are not based on like comparisons.

(Excerpt) Read more at fedsmith.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: compensation; employees; federal
Interesting article. I expect we can see additional details from the work of this new body to justify federal employee compensation. As a federal employee myself, I think this is a good move, to share fully with the public the complex set of skill requirements demanded by many federal positions that justify competitive compensation packages.
1 posted on 03/25/2010 9:48:14 AM PDT by Poundstone
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I saw OPM and thought “Other People’s Money”, not “Office of Personnel Mgt.” Oh, the irony.


2 posted on 03/25/2010 9:49:30 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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Office of Personnel Management Director John Berry told Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, at a Senate Appropriations Committee that such statements are "misinformation" and are not based on like comparisons.

Because pushing paper in a government office is nothing like pushing paper in the private sector.

3 posted on 03/25/2010 9:56:40 AM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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My consulting company did a lot of Salary Surveys in both the public and private sector through the 90’s and mid 2000.
We found that the public employees of agencies, Cities, counties, water districts typically had 40% more in total compensation.

Also, there was this ratchet effect in that they would want to compare with other similar entities in high income areas, and would average up. However, as you moved up the management ranks, the private sector pay was higher. Which is one reason why the public sector is so poorly managed.

4 posted on 03/25/2010 10:00:49 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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assigned a task force to come up with "ironclad" data showing that feds do not earn far more than their private-sector counterparts.

So he's already stated what conclusion he wants the researchers to have the study support.
5 posted on 03/25/2010 10:09:16 AM PDT by mrsmel
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So he's already stated what conclusion he wants the researchers to have the study support.

That struck me immediately also.

6 posted on 03/25/2010 10:11:20 AM PDT by johniegrad
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Oh gee so they are gong to comission a phoeny study to come up with the result they want?I feel so much better!NOT


7 posted on 03/25/2010 10:15:04 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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So he's already stated what conclusion he wants the researchers to have the study support.

Of course. You do research to prove things, not to find answers to questions.

/s

8 posted on 03/25/2010 10:42:09 AM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
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“Cities, counties, water districts typically had 40% more in total compensation.”

That’s likely the effect of public sector unions. In our state (NC), teacher unions insist that our teachers get paid at least the national average even though due to cost of living differences, average worker earnings are below the national average. For a below-average income state to support teacher pay levels that match the national teacher average obviously implies a higher tax burden than elsewhere.

In short, if typical workers are paid 10% less than their counterparts nationally, then teachers should be likewise satisfied with being paid 10% below average for their profession. Needless to say, teachers don’t see it that way at all; instead they always point to that “pay gap.”

I wish Obama would show equal fervor about exploding the myth of the female wage gap. On an apples-to-apples basis that accounts for experience and type of employment, there is no gap, but that doesn’t stop feminazis from constantly complaining that women are paid only 79% as much as men.
http://www.businessweek.com/careers/managementiq/archives/2008/11/the_gender_pay.html

Women take time off to have babies (thereby reducing their average experience relative to men of the same age) and they also self-select into professions that give them greater workday flexibility. Such professions tend to be lower paid than others requiring long dedicated work hours. As a consequence the average FT female worker does earn less than the average FT male worker, but that’s not equivalent to saying they don’t earn equal pay for equal work. If we took that principle literally, then doctors should earn the same hourly rate as garbage collectors.


9 posted on 03/25/2010 11:13:16 AM PDT by DrC
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If we took that principle literally, then doctors should earn the same hourly rate as garbage collectors.


Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! You know that’s coming.

The fascists do take this literally. The Equal Pay movement only began with women. In the universities, it morphs into strikes for higher pay for graduate assistants, usually linked, through a union, to a rise in the wage of the service staff.

At some point, this can only be accomplished by mandating a pay cut in the professional positions, both as a source of revenue to redistribute and as a way to bring both ends of the spectrum closer together.


10 posted on 03/25/2010 3:46:55 PM PDT by reformedliberal ("If it takes a blood bath, let's get it over with." R. Reagan)
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...that such statements are "misinformation" and are not based on like comparisons.

Public vs. private sector are not similar comparisons. Private sector is competetive, drives for efficiency and is profit driven because it has to be. The public sector is not competetive, inefficient and driven by tax-payer funding because it can.

My guess is their study will conclude that salaries can be normalized, and the actual output of each is what is different :-)
11 posted on 03/26/2010 2:00:00 AM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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