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The Wingers Who Cried Wolf, A Commentary by Joe Conason
Rasmussen ^ | March 25, 2010 | Joe Communism

Posted on 03/25/2010 6:30:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Listening to right-wing talk radio on the day after Congress passed health care reform, Bill O'Reilly was stunned. To him, the hosts and the callers sounded "crazed" as they shrieked about "the end of the world, we're socialist now, we have to take the country back."

Bill Hemmer, another Fox host who probably needs medication, has suggested that the legislation will send Americans who don't have health insurance to prison.

On the radio, Rush Limbaugh, the past master of extremist chatter, told his listeners that the bill is an "utter disaster" that represents "the destruction of America as founded."

Over the next six months, millions of voters will take a deep breath and realize that those attacks were blatantly untrue. They may even discover that the bill passed by the Democrats and signed by President Obama will benefit their families immediately.

Limbaugh listeners and Fox fans will stick their fingers in their ears and scream "socialism," but the rest of America may listen -- and then decide, sometime between now and Election Day, that passing health care reform was the right thing to do.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billorino; conason; failure; obamacare; socialism
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To: softwarecreator

There IS a way out of complete violent dissolution,
but the left will not allow it.

If we were to once again recognize absolute state sovereignty and the fedgov were put back into its
Constitutional cage,

then their enslavement policies wouldn’t affect us.
But, this is precisely why they would oppose such a solution.
They would have to relinquish their control fantasies.


41 posted on 03/25/2010 7:27:21 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There aren’t too many people on this Earth I’d like to kick in the head (and groin) with steel-toed boots more than this azzhat, Conason. He’s a lying sack of steaming horse manure, smarmy as all get-out, monotone and always looks like he’s ready for a nap (what’s with the half-closed eyes anyway?). The douche bag has no personality and no sense of humor either. Truly a waste of skin.

But, perhaps I understate.


42 posted on 03/25/2010 7:29:37 AM PDT by MIlle
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To: MrB

We own a small 50’s type diner....I deal with people, like your co-worker everyday...most of them retired union workers....of course politics are discussed everyday...I tried to tell one guy the IRS will be hiring a bunch of goons to make sure we all buy it, and he would have none of it.....Unfortunately for me, I can’t ignore them, and some of our arguments get quite heated....I’d probably be fired if I worked somewhere else...


43 posted on 03/25/2010 7:34:12 AM PDT by little-e (RIP Adam.....)
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To: MrB
Let's face it, the left are basically wimps. If we decide to separate (which is OUR choice), what will they do?

I never really thought or wanted this before, but there is NO other way around this. It is inevitable, so why not do it now?

I am sure they are as sick of us as we are of them so why keep this charade going?

It is time.

44 posted on 03/25/2010 7:35:16 AM PDT by softwarecreator (No more excuses ... we need to take our country back. Now.)
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To: little-e
I tried to tell one guy the IRS will be hiring a bunch of goons to make sure we all buy it, and he would have none of it

"have none of it"?

You mean he outright denied that it was true?

I've talked with leftists like this, that just refuse to acknowledge the nasty truth about "their guys'" policies.

45 posted on 03/25/2010 7:37:10 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: softwarecreator

Leftists always demand that someone else, ie, the government, do their dirty work for them.

They won’t come steal the money out of your wallet,
they elect someone else to do it for them.


46 posted on 03/25/2010 7:38:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: sueuprising
So, this whole mess can be blamed on excessive greed?

Whenever you hear that there is excessive greed, or think that yourself, you are being mislead. Of course there is greed. Why is it greedy for a doctor to want to be paid or a taxpayer to want to keep his own money but not greedy for the free-loader to expect free goods and services? And why is there greed now but not when you were a kid?

The answer to your question has been well documented. Two things, third-party payers (insurance, medicare etc.) and changes in the law since WWII.

It started during the price controls of WWII. That's when companies added health insurance as an employment benefit because they were forbidden to raise your salary. But it was a deductible business expense for them but if you purchased it the insurance was paid for with after tax money. So insurance has become associated with your employer and is not transferable to the new employer. Thus, all the whining about "pre-existing conditions." If the insurance was yours and tax deduct able and transferable and you could shop around and you could tailor an inexpensive policy, such as a "health savings account" or HSA, then insurance would be a lot cheaper and the free market would drive down prices as it did when you were a kid. The damage third party payers do is illustrated by the price increases (due to increased demand) that happened after Medicare and Medicaid were passed.

Once upon a time it was recognized that some events were "acts of God." In other words, no body's fault. You know, like a sinkhole under your house or a birth defect. There was also a "reasonable man" standard that said if a doctor or a contractor did the normal, correct things, he wasn't responsible for a bad outcome.

But the law changed to a "deep pockets" standard that means anyone can be sued no matter how careful they were and even if they win they could be bankrupt. So many more of our activities have to be insured for much, much higher premiums to protect us from the constant threat of lawsuits coming out of nowhere for no reason.

Changing just these two things, third party payers and tort reform, would allow the free market to drive down costs and still allow for innovation.

47 posted on 03/25/2010 7:40:15 AM PDT by freedom_forge (http://libertyphysics.wordpress.com/)
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To: MrB

Hush! They know better than you and are educated and enlightened. BOW!


48 posted on 03/25/2010 7:41:44 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: MrB

Yes, and unfortunately, enough voters benefit from the redistribution of wealth that they will never support anything that they see as reducing their gravy train.


49 posted on 03/25/2010 7:44:25 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

That may be the “sheep” leftists’ motivation for wanting to keep us under the gov’t thumb,

but the elitists driving motivation is to control people,

and allowing a state to “do its own thing” would be anathema to them.


50 posted on 03/25/2010 7:56:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: FunkyZero

Sally Mae is one of our largest employers here in Panama City. They’re all polishing their resumes.


51 posted on 03/25/2010 8:01:16 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: JFC

“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve.” Yamamoto


52 posted on 03/25/2010 8:01:33 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: windsorknot

Joe Conason is just Keith Olberman with a keyboard instead of a microphone.


53 posted on 03/25/2010 8:16:42 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: MrB

I had a libtard co-worker say “something had to be done, right or wrong”...I commented , “wrong”.


54 posted on 03/25/2010 8:53:53 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( FIRE STUPAK: LindaForCongress.com)
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To: little-e
Your Diner is your livelihood. Don't get involves in Political discussions there. It is a no win situation for you. Remember, business is business.

I know you're gritting your teeth listening to your customers spout ignorance and stupidity. Just understand one thing, they were smart enough to pick your Restaurant and not your competitors. Don't do anything to give them a reason to doubt that decision.

Just my 2 cents...

55 posted on 03/25/2010 9:07:43 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Obamunism, the fatal cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Conason is the kind of brain-dead lib/leftist who if told my his master Obama to eat a crap sandwich, would ask if he could put catsup on it.


56 posted on 03/25/2010 9:09:24 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
suggested that the legislation will send Americans who don't have health insurance to prison

California Congressman Tom McClintock also said that.

57 posted on 03/25/2010 3:11:11 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Excuse me while I strip naked! I've got a plane to catch!)
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To: freedom_forge

“Changing just these two things, third party payers and tort reform, would allow the free market to drive down costs and still allow for innovation.”
Thanks everybody who answered my question about expensive health costs. I am now wondering why tort reform has never taken place?


58 posted on 03/25/2010 8:57:43 PM PDT by sueuprising
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