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1 posted on 03/25/2010 6:10:22 AM PDT by aflipflop
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This is not a proposal to halt immigration. It’s a call for rationalizing immigration.

Hey, Frum - as you noted, most immigrants are illegal - so what would 'rationalizing' immigration have to do with it? Illegals come here for lower-tier jobs despite official government policies.

Frum once again shows just how stupid RINOs can get when they try to act Beltway-smart.

2 posted on 03/25/2010 6:13:54 AM PDT by dirtboy
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I can’t stand Frum, but he nails this one. I am glad he is using CIS data. Robet Rector of the Heritage Foundation has estimated that an amnesty will cost us $2.6 trillion and that does not include the 70 to 100 million more legal immigrants who will be sponsored by those granted amnesty thru chain migration, i.e., family reunification.


3 posted on 03/25/2010 6:53:31 AM PDT by kabar
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It’s rumored that President Obama will follow up his health care success with a push for immigration reform.

It’s a bad idea – not least because of the negative impact the latter will have on the former.

Doesn't anyone GET it? As things are, even without Obama in power and his massive increase in spending BEFORE the HCR legislation, we were in huge economic trouble - as in bordering on a Depression. Add in Obama's spending to date and projected into the future (agains, sans HCR), and you can pretty much project that the economy will collapse and the currency will collapse shortly thereafter - all within the next few years. Yes, collapse, as in 25% or more unemployment, imports (like oil) jumping several hundred percent in price, and an inability to borrow from the world (which already exists - China is SELLING Treasuries, not buying hundreds of billions per year as they used to).

Now add in HCR - sans an immigration bill - and you've got an acceleration of the disaster. Even IF one buys the crack that the CBO is selling, this is a $1 trillion program that will result in roughly the same amount of taxes (over and above what we're already paying) over a 10-year period. I think - no, strike that, I KNOW - that we should either not tax the people and let the money be available to individuals and businesses for investment or debt repayment, or that the government itself should use the funds to lower the deficit. To spend more is insanity - and I do NOT believe that this program will even be close to revenue-neutral (let alone produce a surplus - that is simply laughable).

Now add in coverage of another 10 or 12 million people (for a start - that's before they have more kids, and before their families and friends still in Mexico or wherever decide that going to the US is a great deal), and you've got a CERTAIN recipe for disaster.

Disaster. As in "crisis." That's the point, that's the fooking OBJECTIVE! I despise Rahm Emmanuel, but at least the SOB was honest when he said that "you can't let a good crisis go to waste." Unsaid was that if you don't have a "good crisis" (WTF is that? By definition, a crisis is not a good thing - or maybe I missed that class), then you CREATE a "good crisis" in order to "do those things that you otherwise believe that you could not do."

Folks, this is PLANNED. Collapse of our economy is the GOAL - because that will enable Obama and the rest of his crew to use the power of the tools passed by Bush and the Republicans in the wake of 9/11, plus pass even more restrictive (to liberty) legislation. I guarantee you that a gun grab is one of the top things on the list, though I somehow can't get through my thick skull the link between "too many" guns (defined as "one or more guns not in the hands of the police or military") and economic problems. GUARANTEED, the government will take our IRAs and 401(k) plans and force them to be invested in government bonds, plus they will require all of us to put a minimum amount each year into these plans (oh, but they'll "guarantee" us a 3% or so return - which I trust as far as I can throw an aircraft carrier). Before you say "no way!" consider that the HCR legislation mandates that we all buy insurance. If they can do that, they can limit your investment options on retirement plans with no trouble.

There's a storm coming, soon, and it is being purposely hastened by a cabal of like-thinking people that has been trying for 40 or more years to take control of the country. They now control the levers of power, which makes it all but inevitable unless those levers are ripped from their hands, and SOON.

6 posted on 03/25/2010 7:23:59 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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[but the core equation is reasonably straightforward. Every American will be required to buy insurance. Those who cannot afford insurance will be subsidized up to 400 percent above the poverty line, or $88,200 in annual income for a family of four. Subsidies will of course be concentrated most intensely among the poorest. ]

I will refuse to pay. I believe many others will also refuse to pay. I also refuse to hire, at least on the books (there are many legal ways to do this as well). That means nothing is reasonably straightforward, you can see the collapse coming a mile away.


8 posted on 03/25/2010 7:50:11 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence)
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