Posted on 03/24/2010 5:08:26 PM PDT by LaybackLenny
Senate sources confirm to me this evening that Senator Mitch McConnell and his leadership team are trying to scuttle Republican efforts to force a vote on repeal of the entire health care legislation during the reconciliation process. I’m told reliably that moderate Republican senators who voted against Obamacare in December do not want to vote against it again because it would just be “symbolic”. McConnell agrees and is not inclined to push Republicans to go along with any effort to force a vote on repeal during reconciliation, despite David Vitter offering up an amendment to do just that and separate stand alone legislation being offered by Senator Jim DeMint with a host of Republican co-sponsors.
Vitter’s amendment will be up some time around 10:00 p.m. tonight.
I don’t know...I tend to think Mitch might be right on this one.
I HATE OBAMACARE, okay, and anyone who doubts it should look at my history. But look, we have to be smart about this...campaign on repeal, replace with real reform...and THEN do it.
I think Inhofe has a beautiful seventeen word statement that guts the whole damn Obamacare Bill. I’d love to see a Republican House and Senate pass it....attached to a budget bill that Hussein must sign or veto. If he vetos a budget bill, he shuts down his little feifdom. If he signs it, his apparatus falls apart.
That is what we do until we get a Republican in the White House, too....when we can truly destroy HusseinCare.
good answer.
Things are coming down so hot and heavy, maybe need to take a deep breath and watch over a period of days. The stories may or may not all be accurate and I would not put it past Rats to feed heavy disinformation about what the GOP is doing to create discontent.
The GOP (as in principle all the congresspeople) are there to represent the public and if the public does not put heat on them they will forget to take heed. Angry communications should be pouring in on them now like it did on the filthy Rats before they went for Bummercare.
Right now, the Dims still can negate any effort made to reverse Obamacare. That will happen no matter how much effort the GOP exerts, and no matter how much political capital and cash they burn through in the process.
Cash and political capital are finite resources.
After the 2010 election, the congress will have a much different makeup, and teh efforts are far more likely to bear fruit.
>> Right now, the Dims still can negate any effort made to reverse Obamacare. That will happen no matter how much effort the GOP exerts
So what? What does it cost to fight? At worst, it will delay ‘Rat progress, and keep the issue in the limelight.
>> no matter how much political capital and cash they burn through in the process.
How, exactly, do you burn political capital in an honest (but no holds barred) fight for what the majority of the PEOPLE want? And WHAT cash would McConnell burn fighting the ‘Rats?
There’s a time and place for everything, and this is neither the time nor the place. I agree too.
To try and push for repeal right now would be the dumbest thing the Republicans could do. We have elections coming up in November, and this is a great platform for the GOP.
Sometimes, you have to pick your battles, but, some on here want to blow our chances because they want quick revenge.
yeah, don’t they say revenge is a dish best served cold?
WHEN the GOP had control of the House, of the Senate and the Presidency...
We continued on our merry way towards Gomorrah.
No, it won't. The only way that monstrosity will be repealed is if the House and Senate are filled with Conservatives. Mere Republicans will collude.
Didn't do so hot in math when you were a kid, didja?
“Better to think strategically...”
With a good chunk of the populace angry about the bill, how does their acceptance strategically help 1/3 of them to get re-elected next fall? Maybe they’re figuring most people will forget.
“Anyone hoping for any spine among the Republican “leadership” is fooling themselves.”
Republicans tend to get bogged down in the details. That’s fine for people like us who have been following this, but they don’t need to convince us.
We really need to focus on those who occasionally tune in and just want their free stuff and can’t be bothered with the horrible details in this bill. Now, we only have a few seconds at a time to reach these folks, so there’s no point in talking about the trillions it will cost or cooked CBO numbers.
Rather, Republicans need to hit hard with things that reach these people directly, such as taxing now & getting the free stuff much later(meaning grandma won’t get help now)or the cost of student loans going up by $1500-$1700 a year or IRS enforcement.
Another is to stress the congressional exemption of these exchanges. This is particularly important because those looking for the free goodies believe in fairness, which always translates into spreading the misery equally.
Don’t take the idea of a future repeal off the table, and certainly keep the lawsuits going. But while Obama is running around peddling utopia, Republicans need to identify their targets and keep it simple for the public.
Dems realized long ago that it’s easier to feel than it is to think. Republicans need to market to the “feeling” group and make them feel very bad about what’s coming their way.
Let's face it, we have a lot of one-hit wonders on here who are only tough guys when it comes to pissing and moaning about the GOP. When it comes to doing the heavy lifting of actually fighting against the Democrats and the socialist agenda, most of these same people are nowhere to be found.
I'm to the point where if I see some idiot on here moaning and complaining about "well, the Republicans did (fill in the blank)", they immediately get on the bus headed for scroll-over country.
Off with their heads
What is Inhofe’s statement?
Do you recall how successful that strategy was with the McCain/Feingold atrocity?
The Republicans can't do squat in November if they alienate all of us. Showing some spine now would go a long way towards showing us they deserve our support. My guess is that the GOP leadership is betting we have to flock to them because we have no where else to go, so why bloody themselves fighting for anything so abstract as our freedom?
No, the strategy the GOP should be using is flat out war on everything the Dems try, every minute they are in session from now on.
How the Republicans treat his (commie) judicial nominees from here on will tell you just how serious they are about fighting the socialist takeover of this country. It's going to be sad and discouraging to watch.
Who said anything about opposition being a bad idea? That's a projection on your part and was not expressly nor implicitly said by me.
I just hate the constant knee-jerk ragging on Republicans that goes on here day after day after day, year after year. To be perfectly blunt, I think a fairly sizeable number of the people who do that are Leftist/Dems pretending to be conservatives just to come here and sow division among us.
Despite their severely reduced number in both the House and Senate, Republicans fought a good fight against the health care monstrosity. Republican attorneys general have filed suit challenging the constitutionality of the health care act. They deserve credit for that, but too many people around here only like to get off criticizing Republicans and never crediting them when they do good things.
ROFLMAO!!
I dunno.
If we flood Congress with repeal bills that don’t get passed, then the public will tune out... just like in the case of the ‘Boy Who Cried Wolf’.
But if we hold off until the elections, then we can use it to rally the electorate. That, and possibly get a majority vote for repeal, what with a bunch of terrified Democrats facing certain defeat. Which will then force the Obamanation to veto it, which then can be used in the political advertisements against *ALL* Democrats up for election.
“The spirit of Chamberlain is strong in this one.”
I sense a tearing up of the force, as if the voices of a million patriots were yelling “Fight, you weenie!”
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