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Cornyn: GOP Won't Run on Full Repeal (Disgusting)
National Review Corner ^ | 03/23/10 | Daniel Foster

Posted on 03/23/2010 2:09:54 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

"There is non-controversial stuff here like the preexisting conditions exclusion and those sorts of things," the Texas Republican said. "Now we are not interested in repealing that. And that is frankly a distraction."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 2010midterms; bhohealthcare; cornyn; deathcare; deathpanels; health; johncornyn; nothealthcare; obama; obamacare; repeal; romney; romneycare; socializedmedicine
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To: MichiganConservative
No, some of us were born with birth defects and can not get insurance. I take that back. When I had a government job, I had great insurance.

But,when I started my own small business—a business the employs people and pays taxes, and provides them with insurance, I was unable to get insurance for myself because of my preexisting condition.

Thankfully, I am blessed and healthy. But, I had six surgeries before I was five years old, so insurance is out of the question.

You are right of course, there is a simple fix for my problem. I can go be a government employee again.

161 posted on 03/23/2010 2:58:02 PM PDT by shadowfighter
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To: Recovering_Democrat

People that believe this sucker get’s repealed are kidding themselves.

Further, people that believe the GOP is going to win elections if they are forced on the defensive about pre-existing conditions are completely deluded.

The American people are not particularly smart when it comes to this stuff, and they ARE willing to trade security for freedom & liberty. Most people don’t have a clue how insurance works and will never support repealing some of the provisions in this bill.

Sadly, this is precisely why this was such a big victory for The Kenyan - it is almost impossible to undo these social programs and he and his party know it.


162 posted on 03/23/2010 2:59:22 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: pb929
The "answer" already exists. A friend of mine had a serious illness (chronic). He changed jobs and was covered under his new employers insurance - even with his "pre-existing" condition.

I don't hear vitriol, I hear frustration that has turned to dismay and absolute disgust.

Remember November - No Dem's or RINO's!

163 posted on 03/23/2010 3:00:13 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, while you were sleeping the Socialists took over.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Im in Texas, just spoke with a lady from the NTexas office. She had no idea he said these things. She was quite and told me she would pass along my concern. Well, needless to say I nicely blew a gasket. Seriously, you are going to relay my concern? thats it? He comes out the day the of this bill and says this? really?


164 posted on 03/23/2010 3:02:08 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: pb929

“It will require insurance companies to raise everyone else’s rates to compensate for the high risk insureds they must take onto the rolls.”

I wonder if you have any conception of the cost that would be involved in doing so. Even with mandates for everyone to buy insurance (thereby expanding the pool), they’d never be able to cover it. Mark my words, private insurance would go out of business, the government would nationalize the industry, and subsequently ration care. It happened in Europe, and it’ll happen here because of people like you.


165 posted on 03/23/2010 3:02:10 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: pb929

“Since when did it become commie babbling to help someone in need?”

To help those in need by (eventually) expropriating the capital of private companies? Since forever.


166 posted on 03/23/2010 3:04:39 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: rwfromkansas

I can understand your situation. There are many children born with birth defects. I am not opposed to the government helping such families, but forcing private insurance companies to cover preexisting illnesses is not the answer. I would hope something such as Medicare would be a better solution. Insurance companies are not charitable organizations. They are businesses, and most are publicly traded corporations. If the government forces insurance companies to cover preexisting medical conditions, they will go bankrupt. None of their policy holders could pay the premiums for medical coverage. We will eventually end up with socialized medicine run by the federal government.


167 posted on 03/23/2010 3:05:00 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: HighlyOpinionated

SEND CORNYN AN EMAIL

http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=ContactForm

Tell Cornyn he needs to sign Sen Jim DeMint’s Repeal Obamacare Pledge.

http://senateconservatives.com/repeal

101,767 people have already signed DeMint’s pledge!!!!


168 posted on 03/23/2010 3:05:29 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: DemonDeac

The GOP cannot be trusted.

Welcome, my Libertarian friend.


169 posted on 03/23/2010 3:06:48 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I wish some northern Yankee hellhole would adopt Cornyn.

We'd be rid of him, and he'd ideologically fit right in.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

170 posted on 03/23/2010 3:06:50 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Longbow1969

The way to attack the bill as a whole is at its core, the use of state power to force people to buy private insurance.

That is what instinctually most people hate, that I have encountered.

There are two main reasons why the national Republicans will not likely use freedom as the major selling point,

1. It sounds damn good to them. They like the idea of compelling the people to give money to cherished patrons.

2. The business cultism of the modern Republican party, exemplified in this thread.
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The only chance is for state Republican officials to act. The AGs have already. They are arguing outright against the bill on the primary reason of freedom of contract. And they are met with wide popularity.

National Republicans will not lift a finger or give ideological support.


171 posted on 03/23/2010 3:08:34 PM PDT by Shermy (Hello SuperRomney FascistCare)
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To: onyx

He’s an utter fool.


172 posted on 03/23/2010 3:08:54 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Out with them, in with the ones who will re peal the crap.


173 posted on 03/23/2010 3:09:08 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: rogue yam

“his statement regarding pre-existing conditions is utter ignorance.”

I must respectfully disagree. Cornyn is a PROGRESSIVE who just happens to have an (R) after his TREASONOUS name.

Wake up folks. For the most part WE are on our own. Your grinning “political heroes” are bought and paid for.

Hello, anyone home!!!


174 posted on 03/23/2010 3:10:39 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: eCSMaster

You people are insane

Posters, this man is RIGHT.

You fellow freepers need to listen to Cornyn.

After all, he told us Arlen Specter was the man to support.

And Charlie Crist too. Cornyn’s judgement is right on!!!!
(If u like supporting RINO’s)


175 posted on 03/23/2010 3:12:04 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Shermy

Cornyn: “I have mine, Thank You!”


176 posted on 03/23/2010 3:12:45 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Nosterrex

“but forcing private insurance companies to cover preexisting illnesses is not the answer”

It’s already the law in the states. Obama was taking false credit, creating a crisis where there was none. These people are mistaken.

There is nothing in this bill that says that someone can just sit around then get sick then demand an insurance company give him a policy that he can afford. It’s a created myth, a replacement for the public option myth. And the law is quite the opposite, people cannot sit around and not buy insurance, they are criminalized if they don’t.

These people cannot focus on the central factor of the bill, the forced purchase of insurance, because, I suspect, deep down, they really like it, but cannot admit it, because it conflicts 100% with their purported ideals of freedom.


177 posted on 03/23/2010 3:13:15 PM PDT by Shermy (Hello SuperRomney FascistCare)
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To: Nosterrex

I sure hope you are wrong...we need private insurers. Then again, it may be Obama’s plan all along to get government health care by default if they all go bankrupt.


178 posted on 03/23/2010 3:14:36 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: autumnraine

“They can’t ‘drop you’ for being sick. They can not insure you if you are already sick”

The main reason the preexisting condtions stuff is so popular, I think, it because people confuse it for what you describe above. They believe the government is stepping in to stop insurance companies from willy-nilly conspiring not to pay for people who are duly covered. As if there weren’t already a perfectly good process for preventing such a thing (namely, the courts). Either that, or they think the preexisting condition was a lawyer’s trick, in the fine print. As if people are being dropped from coverage because according to rider B, subset 123, they weren’t allowed to have more than one tatoo on any particular limb of their body, or something. Or they think it’s unfair that people lose their coverage through no fault of their own, most often if they get fired. As if there weren’t already a perfectly good process for preventing such a thing (namely, insurance insurance; or, better yet, severing coverage from employment, which was a huge mistake and should have never happened in the first place).

If we could make them see that coverage for preexisting conditions is like buying car insurance after you flip into a ditch, they’d get it.


179 posted on 03/23/2010 3:14:48 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Nervous Tick

WILL NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE EXPENSIVE PROGRAMS

Thats when they start pulling the plug on Grandpa and Grandma...for starters.

And start working their way down on “who gets to live list”


180 posted on 03/23/2010 3:17:47 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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