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Stupak Agrees to Executive Order Language: 7 More to Vote Yes
Firedoglake.com ^ | 3/21/10 | Jane Hamsher

Posted on 03/21/2010 10:07:07 AM PDT by LdSentinal

Per MSNBC, Bart Stupak has agreed to language in an executive order that would satisfy his block. He had called a press conference at 12:30, but has now canceled it. The seven Democrats left in his block will vote “yes.”

Details of what the order will contain are not known. Yesterday the Washington Post said that “it is likely at the very least to restate Obama’s commitment to upholding the Hyde Amendment.”

Right now, the Hyde Amendment has to be renewed each year in the Appropriations bill. Having a Democratic President state it in the form of an Executive Order would be quite a coup for anti-abortion activists.

But Stupak has been after more than just Hyde. The health care bill contains $10 billion for Bernie Sanders’ community clinics, which would begin immediately rather than waiting until 2014. Planned Parenthood had pledged their support for the bill with the knowledge that much of that money would be going to their clinics, but would not be used for abortion services. However Stupak has pursuing the agenda of American’s United for Life, who want a commitment that no money go toward Planned Parenthood clinics regardless of what it is used for.

It’s possible that the Stupak block were just looking for a graceful way out, an excuse to drop their fight and vote for the bill without looking to the anti-abortion community that they just gave in to political pressure. But until the language of the executive order is released publicly, nobody will know.

Rep. Diana DeGette agreed to support the executive order yesterday on behalf of the pro-choice caucus. DeGette has still not released the 41 names of those who signed her letter saying they “would not vote for a conference report that contains language that restricts women’s right to choose any further than current law,” even though the language in the Senate bill most certainly does that.

Imagine what today would look like if progressives in the House had held their ground like the unions or the anti-abortion Democrats. As Armando notes, “It actually stands as a testament to the ineptitude of progressives. Fighting for a very popular initiative, they still could not muster a bargaining strategy that could work.”

Join us at 2pm today when debate iof the bill will begin in the House. It will proceed for 2 hours and then be stopped for the vote. After the House votes on the Senate bill, there will immediately be a vote on the reconciliation “fix.” We’ll be live blogging.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; abortion; bhohealthcare; congress; coward; obama; obamacare; prolife; stupak
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To: LdSentinal

I hope the people of Northern Michigan remember this in November.


21 posted on 03/21/2010 10:12:41 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: carcraft

I’m sure the legal eagles have crafted an EO that will be legally unenforceable.


22 posted on 03/21/2010 10:12:55 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: LdSentinal; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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23 posted on 03/21/2010 10:13:19 AM PDT by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Indeed. Time to start shopping at garage sales.....anything to starve the beast of taxes.

This nonsense has got to stop.


24 posted on 03/21/2010 10:13:43 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: LdSentinal

How long before the first lawsuit is filed?


25 posted on 03/21/2010 10:13:43 AM PDT by NoobRep
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To: LdSentinal

Stupak must have gotten his 30 pieces of silver.


26 posted on 03/21/2010 10:14:24 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
I hope the people of Northern Michigan remember this in November.

I, for one, will be sending money from Georgia to *help* them remember.

27 posted on 03/21/2010 10:14:34 AM PDT by Momto2 ("A sharp tongue is the only edge tool that grows keener with constant use" Irving - Rip Van Winkle)
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To: LdSentinal

“Having a Democratic President state it in the form of an Executive Order would be quite a coup for anti-abortion activists.”

If this is the way they feel then I hope they enjoy the country they have sold out.


28 posted on 03/21/2010 10:14:41 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (The Constitution is the issue, other issues are small potatoes. If we fail none will matter.)
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To: cardinal4
“Stupak caved”

Stupak DID NOT cave. Stupak waited for cover in order to fool his constituents. EOs mean jack squat in terms of "legislating" and Stupak knows this. The constituents will not, which is what Stupak is banking on in November.

29 posted on 03/21/2010 10:14:44 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: LdSentinal

An executive order that rescinds a specific portion of a bill passed by the legislature sounds an awful lot like a line item veto.


30 posted on 03/21/2010 10:14:52 AM PDT by yooling ( FUBO)
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To: LdSentinal

This should make Stupak and his gang more vulnerable in November. They can no longer say they stand on principle.


31 posted on 03/21/2010 10:15:44 AM PDT by clintonh8r (I love my country. I hate...HATE!!...my government.)
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To: Paladin2
Stupic is a f’n retard.

No, he's not.

He's a cowardly, unprincipled moral degenerate.

In other words, a typical collectivist Democrat...

32 posted on 03/21/2010 10:15:47 AM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: LdSentinal

Welcome to the Fascist States Of America, folks....

234 years wasn’t a bad run, when you think about it.


33 posted on 03/21/2010 10:16:23 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: cardinal4

He was always voting YES...


34 posted on 03/21/2010 10:16:26 AM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: cardinal4

give hannity credit as well...


35 posted on 03/21/2010 10:17:06 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
We have 3 options to beat back this communist coup.....

1. Ballot box - in 2010 & 2012 to overturn this and the new "programs" coming (Amnesty, Cap&Tax, etc)

2. Legal box - i.e. lawsuits and hope SCOTUS overturns on basis of unconstitionality

3. Ammo box - No explanation needed

36 posted on 03/21/2010 10:18:04 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: LdSentinal

Thank you Rep. Gohmert...but, you are talking to Democrats. They rarely listen.


37 posted on 03/21/2010 10:18:16 AM PDT by Amityschild (Stop Spending!)
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To: LdSentinal

The outcome of any vote by Congress on health care is irrelevant since Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care! Therefore the so called legislation on its face is Unconstitutional! The people are not bound to comply with an Unconstitutional act of Congress! This is a power regulated to the states per the 10th Amendment!

It is the reason why Idaho and Virginia have passed legislation blocking federal health care from being illegally imposed on the citizens of those states by reasserting their 10th Amendment rights and 34 other states considering similar legislation! This is the point people need to hammer home with their Congress critters!


38 posted on 03/21/2010 10:18:25 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: LdSentinal

We were stupid to trust in Stupak.

Fooled again...


39 posted on 03/21/2010 10:18:31 AM PDT by Deo volente (Health care reform is not a bad idea in itself, but this Bill is a terrible "solution".)
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To: Gay State Conservative; carcraft

“.I wonder if Executive Orders can be rescinded? Like within a week of having been signed. “

Not until after the November elections. Zero will be a lame duck, but he’ll have hoped that some dRats will have been able to hold their seats. After November? What the heck does he care!


40 posted on 03/21/2010 10:19:12 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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