Posted on 03/20/2010 10:43:36 AM PDT by NoobRep
Sen. Kent Conrad, speaking to Roll Call and Fox, says the Senate will likely be unable to pass unchanged the reconciliation bill the House passes, even if the House can pass it:
Conrad said the Senate Parliamentarian has declined to make rulings on several issues in the bill that Republicans are likely to challenge under the “Byrd rule.” That rule states that, among other things, every provision of a budget reconciliation bill must have a budget impact and cannot be “extraneous.”
“Although we’ve spent many, many hours with the Parliamentarian, some things he has not yet rendered a conclusion” on, Conrad said. “He wants to hear from both sides before he does.”
Conrad continued: “Do I expect there will be some additional Byrd rule challenges that will be upheld? Yeah. I do.”
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Behold traitors and the new generation of Nazis..
if thisi cramdown works, we’ll be arguing over this like we do Roe v Wade for forever. that’s what happens when you move forward without the consent of the governed.
Kind of. Obamacare will become the law of the land the moment Barry signs it - perhaps as early as Monday morning.
Everything else (legislatively) that happens subsequent to that signing, really is just political theater.
The next real battle will be in the Courts, not the Congress.
Which is exactly THE POINT...
Every Dem runs on giving you MORE, defeating Every EVIL, Republican killer of seniors and Children who tries to bring sanity to it.
If this passes, it’s GAME OVER, folks....
May not end until November. Then the new Congress can scrap it.
I am a student of parliamentary law. You have motions and you have amendments to motions (bills). To pass them, you approve the amendment, then you approve the motion/bill, as amended. Passed. To recind or repeal a motion, you do it in reverse. So, why is it going to be so difficult to repeal this monster even if Hairy Reed put an amendment on it that it cant be repealed? You repeal his amendment, then you repeal the bill as amended. What am I missing here?
Don't forget about the cuts to Medicare. There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of people on Medicare advantage, and that is going away. Seniors LOVE Medicare advantage.
Yes, the Dems will roll out every sick kid, and adult that will magically be covered by insurance. At the same time, Seniors will also be getting their Medicare Advantage cancellation notices. We will see who has the more organized and energized lobby - seniors or sick kids. My money is on the seniors.
The sheer complexity of this program should be compared to measuring 330,000,000 people for uniforms; making them pay in advance of ordering the fabric and manufacturing something that will not fit when it’s ready.
Bigger than gearing up for WWII.
It’s never over until we say it is. To accept defeat is as bad as accepting evil itself.
Obama has not included in his plan ONE extra physician to care for the 30 million newly insured. When physicians retire rather that put up with the harassment from the 200 new federal agencies that Obamacare spawns, then the ER will be more crowded that it is now. Overworked nurses will also retire or change careers cause they will not take the people yelling at them that they have FREE health care now and demand it from them. The rest of the doctors will be under a union now thanks to a payoff to SEIU in Obamacare. Can you imagine when the doctors unions go on strike??? Invest heavily in funeral homes now, cause they are the only winners here.
I expect the rise of a black market for health care. Many of the doctors disgusted by federal intrusion into their lives will find a way to make a living with across-the-border or simply back woods treatment. The feds, in reality, won't care much because the more people working in the shadows, the more opportunities they have to harass, fine, and imprison as they assert their authority.
Yes, but we do get 16,500 more IRS agents...
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