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To: Frantzie

I don’t get it either. It was my understanding that in order to pass, both bills MUST have the exact same language.


54 posted on 03/19/2010 10:57:11 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG

You silly person! Rules and laws are for losers!


56 posted on 03/19/2010 11:03:01 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Kimberly GG

No.

The way it’s supposed to work is this. in a nutshell (it’s actually more complicated but this is basically it): each chamber or one chamber generates a bill. That chamber votes on it (after amendments and haggling, etc.). Let’s say it passes. If the other chamber has a similar bill, and they pass their bill, those two bills will go to a committee that will work out the differences and create one bill. That bill, assuming it gets voted out of that committee, goes to each chamber. If both chambers pass it, it goes to the prez for consideration and signature.

So, there are no “both” bills when it comes to the final vote. The “other” bill being discussed in connection with all this is the “nuclear option” bill. This is a reconciliation bill, which is usually a rather minor procedure for correcting budgetary items and expenditures from previous bills already signed into law.

The reason this is being discussed and used in this case is because of the election of Scott Brown. The rats never dreamed they’d lose that seat, so they thought they’d just hash out the two existing bills and send them back for another vote. But with the election of Scott Brown, the senate became unwilling or would be unsuccessful in another vote on the final rat product because they only have 59 votes, not enough for a cloture vote. That then meant that the only way to pass zero’s deathcare legislation was for the House to approve the senate bill. The rats vastly outnumber the pubs in the House. But the rats don’t like the senate bill, for a lot of widely varying reasons, and they don’t trust the senate to use the nuclear option once they (the House) give them what they want (approval) because the sneate likes their bill and they would like to avoid the controversy and constitutional challenge that using the nuke will bring, so the House and zero made the senate prepare and finish the nuclear option (reconciliation) bill (that’s what the CBO just finished scoring - the nuke). See, the senate parliamentarian has said that the senate bill has to be signed into law before it can be nuked, so the House is twitchy about approving the senate bill. What if they approve the senate bill and the senate reneges on firing the nuke? Apparently zero has promised to ride herd on the senate and make them follow through on firing the nuke.

What it boils down to is that it’s the same reason a whore insists on getting paid up front.

So that’s how we got to where we are now.


64 posted on 03/20/2010 1:04:03 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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