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Earlier on the thread, posters were arguing over the term "Creationist." Some want the term narrowly construed to match their seemingly favorite target, the Young Earth Creationists.

It's not a matter of "want." Young Earth Creationists named themselves that. From CreationWiki:

In 1929 a book by one of [flood geologist] George McCready Price's former students, Harold W. Clark described Price's catastrophism as "creationism" in Back to Creationism. Previously anti-evolutionists had described themselves as being "Christian fundamentalists" "Anti-evolution" or "Anti-false science".

I call them that because that's what they call themselves. And I have yet to see a modern cite for the use of "creationist" to mean something else, outside of these discussions.

Seems to me that all who believe in Creation could be accurately called "Creationist."

Could be; just aren't.

“And I have yet to see a modern cite for the use of “creationist” to mean something else, outside of these discussions.”

Yet you just did, in the post to which you responded.

You’re telling us with a straight face that you’ve never heard of the term *old earth creationist*?

OECs are virtually NEVER addressed by the evos, even on these threads. There seems to be a tacit denial of even the existence of them by the evos. Demanding that the term *creationist* be forced to fit your narrowly defined parameters when even the dictionary definition doesn’t require it is disingenuous.

It’s especially ironic that evos demand that the definition of the word *creationist* mean the 6 day, 6,000 year old earth YECer view of creation due to what they perceive as the current common, everyday usage of the word, when they reject that very thing for the word *theory*. When people use the current common, everyday usage of the word *theory*, evos pitch a fit about the meaning of that as well, insisting that that is NOT the proper definition to be used.

So on one hand, they insist on the current common, everyday usage of one word, and on the other deny the current common, everyday usage of another word, apparently for no valid reason.

Ironic is not the correct term. Hypocritical is.

Perhaps you could explain the *reasoning* (or rather justification) for such an inconsistency.

Thank you for your reply!

I apologize for taking so long to get back to you and this thread. It's been hectic around here...

That Young Earth Creationists call themselves Creationist does not constitute a trademark.

Absent a trademark filing, anyone who believes that Creation happened whether Christian, Jew, Muslim or whatever has just as much right to call themselves Creationist.

Personally, I perceive no conflict at all between God the Father's revelation in 1) the Person of Jesus Christ, 2) the Person of the indwelling Holy Spirit, 3) Scriptures and 4) Creation both spiritual and physical.

I agree with Jewish Physicist Gerald Schroeder that, applying relativity and the inflationary theory, an equivalent week at the inception space/time coordinates equals approximately 15 billion years at our present space/time coordinates. For my "primer" on matter, relativity and beginnings, click here.

I also perceive the first three chapters of Genesis referring to the Creation of both heaven and earth, spiritual and physical - that God is the only observer and the author, the perspective is His, not man's. The events He describes are not ipso facto occuring in the physical realm (emphasis mine.)

These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and [there was] not a man to till the ground. – Genesis 2:4-5

And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. – Genesis 2:9

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. – Revelation 2:7

The observer perspective doesn't change to Adamic man's until the beginning of chapter 4, when Adam has been banished to mortality.

I likewise agree with some early Christians and Jews that Adamic man was appointed a week which is 7,000 years and that the last day, the Sabbath, is Christ's 1,000 year reign on earth. Depending on whether one uses Christian dating or Jewish dating, Christ is due to return any time now or in a couple of centuries.

Bottom line, I'm YEC from the inception space/time coordinates and OEC from our present space/time coordinates.

I am a Creationist.

Truly, there is no excuse for anyone to not be a Creationist:

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:20

God's Name is I AM.