“And I have yet to see a modern cite for the use of “creationist” to mean something else, outside of these discussions.”
Yet you just did, in the post to which you responded.
You’re telling us with a straight face that you’ve never heard of the term *old earth creationist*?
OECs are virtually NEVER addressed by the evos, even on these threads. There seems to be a tacit denial of even the existence of them by the evos. Demanding that the term *creationist* be forced to fit your narrowly defined parameters when even the dictionary definition doesn’t require it is disingenuous.
It’s especially ironic that evos demand that the definition of the word *creationist* mean the 6 day, 6,000 year old earth YECer view of creation due to what they perceive as the current common, everyday usage of the word, when they reject that very thing for the word *theory*. When people use the current common, everyday usage of the word *theory*, evos pitch a fit about the meaning of that as well, insisting that that is NOT the proper definition to be used.
So on one hand, they insist on the current common, everyday usage of one word, and on the other deny the current common, everyday usage of another word, apparently for no valid reason.
Ironic is not the correct term. Hypocritical is.
Perhaps you could explain the *reasoning* (or rather justification) for such an inconsistency.
WELL PUT.
VERY WELL PUT.
THX.
Kudos, Mom, I happen to be an OEC and so is the astrophysicist, Dr. Ross, who is also a Pastor. Reasons.org is an excellent source of material for OEC.
There's a reason I said "outside of these discussions."
You’re telling us with a straight face that you’ve never heard of the term *old earth creationist*?
I admit my post was unclear on that point; thank you for the opportunity to clarify. In the post I was responding to, Alamo-Girl only mentioned YECs versus "all who believe in Creation" as possible definitions for "creationist." That led me to base my post on the same dichotomy, which, as you point out, is inaccurate.
I use the term "creationist"--and, as far as I can tell, so do most "evos" here--to refer to anti-evolution creationists of all stripes, young earth, old earth, teenage earth, whatever. It is the case that YECs coined the modern use of the term and applied it to themselves. And most of the participation in these threads is by YECs, so their arguments are the ones that mostly get addressed. But there's no denial, tacit or otherwise, that OECs exist. To the extent they argue against evolution, evos address those arguments; to the extent they argue for an old earth, evos aren't going to disagree with them.