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To: Lady Heron

“First thing I and most Conservative Christians vote is pro-life....so no...no libertarianism for this Christian.”

I am unaware of a conflict.

The small l libertarian position is generally to revoke Roe v. Wade and return the issue to the states.

Big L libertarians are pro-abortion.


50 posted on 03/19/2010 1:20:32 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
"Big L libertarians are pro-abortion."


The official position of the LP is and a majority of LP mambers probably are, but there is a significant number of even big "L" Libertarians who see support for abortion as inconsistent with the libertarian rejection of force and agression as a means of achieving social ends.
61 posted on 03/19/2010 2:05:38 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Jewbacca
The small l libertarian position is generally to revoke Roe v. Wade and return the issue to the states.

If someone shoots and kills a vandal on his property during the night, is it a righteous shoot or is it murder? Should the federal government be involved in the determination?

The vast majority of abortions could be construed as self-defense on the part of the woman. Different states would vary in the level of risk the woman would have to face from pregnancy to justify such a claim. I really don't see the issue as much different from those posed in the vandal-shooting case above, where state authority is well established.

98 posted on 03/19/2010 4:10:00 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: Jewbacca
I am unaware of a conflict.

The small l libertarian position is generally to revoke Roe v. Wade and return the issue to the states.

The conservative position is that the right to life is unalienable. This was unanimously agreed to in 1776.

The 14th Amendment to the Constitution states:

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Please notice the distinction between "All persons born" in the first sentence and any person (one would assume born or unborn, naturalized or not,as it is not distinguished as it is in the first) in the second sentence.

162 posted on 03/20/2010 2:38:42 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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