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To Repeat: Doctors Could Hang It Up
Investors.com ^ | March 17, 2010 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 03/17/2010 4:48:51 PM PDT by Kaslin

Health Overhaul: We were harshly criticized last September for an IBD/TIPP Poll that showed 45% of doctors would consider leaving medicine if a health care takeover passed. A new poll has vindicated our findings.

Our questionnaire went out Aug. 28 to some 25,600 doctors nationwide. Of that substantial sample, we got 1,476 responses. One hundred of those were retired, leaving 1,376.

At the time, virtually no one had stopped to ask doctors how they felt about the medical takeover being discussed in Congress. We thought it was vital to ask them, since any overhaul would rise or fall on its implementation by doctors themselves.

To say we were stunned with the results is an understatement.

Of the physicians queried, 45% said they'd consider closing their practice or retiring early if the overhaul then being considered were enacted. Also, 65% said they opposed the government's attempts at taking over the health care system. Just 33% supported it.

Given that the White House and Congress both promised then — as they do now — to provide health care coverage for 31 million new patients while at the same time cutting costs from the $2.4 trillion a year we spend on medical care, we thought it was important to reveal that doctors wouldn't go along with it.

What we found was that of the 800,000 physicians practicing in the U.S. in 2006, as many as 360,000 might leave the profession. So with the proposed overhaul, we'd be trying to cover 31 million more patients with up to 45% fewer doctors.

Impossible. It can't be done.

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KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; medicine; physicians; socializedmedicine
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To: AlanD

“I honestly think this story is bogus. I think most Doctors wouldn’t quit medicine.”

You obviously have not had a conversation with any practicing MD or you would not be making this very naive observation.

My son is a general surgeon in NE Alabama whose hobby has been woodworking. He is going to shut down his surgical practice and open a cabinet shop.

The docs who are going to stay in practice are the Muslims and other medical imports.


21 posted on 03/17/2010 6:02:41 PM PDT by LaMudBug
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To: SC DOC
See my post 18. Thanks for the info on the 21% effective date and the assignment info. I am also on Tricare For Life as my secondary. You mentioned Oct 1st as the stay of execution for the 21% reduction in Medicare payments. That is also the fiscal year start point for TFC which I heard is going to take a HUGE hit in cuts. Tricare starts their deductible all over again on Oct 1 while Medicare starts on Jan 1. Will be interesting if the TFC cuts take effect since I heard they were, originally, suppose to have taken effect earlier but got a stay as well.
22 posted on 03/17/2010 6:10:15 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: AlanD
They might quit the Obama-Care program though, and insist on being paid in cash at whatever rate is agreed upon by doctor and patient.

This option will soon be outlawed, if ObamaCare becomes law. These people are evil but they're not stupid. Remember, doctors are licensed and it is considered a state-regulated privilege to practise medicine. It is not a right.

Surprised? Guess what--if you want your license renewed you will sign right here that you will only treat people in compliance with the "Freedom of Medical Choice Act of 1933." Oops, that' s 2010.

23 posted on 03/17/2010 6:11:25 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Evil Slayer

TFC = TFL


24 posted on 03/17/2010 6:11:52 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Uncle Miltie
This will be a rigidly controlled government program. Laws of supply and demand will not apply. If there is a reduced supply of medical care, then the masses will just have to queue up and wait their turn. Like Britain or Canada. And, if you die while waiting, well, that's life.
25 posted on 03/17/2010 6:24:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ground_fog
This is the secret reason why the 'rats don't care about "tort reform." Once all doctors are working for the gubbermint, lawsuits will no longer be a problem.
26 posted on 03/17/2010 6:29:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: AlanD

Like I’ve said, what if there were restrictions on what a lawyer could charge per visit? Or how much they can be paid from a lawsuit? You’d never hear the end of the screaming.


27 posted on 03/17/2010 6:29:35 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: AlanD
re: I honestly think this story is bogus. I think most Doctors wouldn’t quit medicine. )))

They certainly will. There are quite a few boomer docs who can retire rather than remain.

It used to be that docs seldom retired at all. They used to practice well into old age, gradually reducing the size of their practice and giving younger docs the benefit of a lifetime of experience, aging with their patients.

Now, even good docs who love their work aim at earlier retirements because of the fear of lawsuits. Add Obamacare into the mix, and you will certainly see many docs moving to distance themselves from the problems.

Obamacare couldn't work with enthusiastic support of physicians. It will be a nightmare without it.

At the very least, it is the wise doctor who makes provision to take an extended sabbatical when this starts being implemented.

28 posted on 03/17/2010 6:33:21 PM PDT by Mamzelle (On FR, watch out for the Club of late-2004)
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To: Kaslin
In HopeyChangica, we'll just round up the doctors and force them to practice under penalty of prison if they don't comply.

Problem solved.

-PJ

29 posted on 03/17/2010 6:34:32 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: SC DOC
As for myself, I planned to retire in 4 years, but if Obamacare passes, I will retire immediately.

I've "diversified" my practice to include sports medicine and training. Cash only and you would be surprised at the opportunities available for an American trained physician. I love what I do, but if I'm going to get taxed to death, plus get paid less, well then I'm opting to do other things.

Most physicians are rather bright and could have made money doing other things. I feel sorry for the guys just getting out of residency that have debt and now know that they might be in debt for a lot longer.

I'd can already see the handwriting on the wall. Private practices will take NO insurance and only accept payments with paperwork provided so that you can fill it out and send it in for the government to reimburse you. The ER's will be flooded and that's when the whole system will vapor lock.

As it is now, the malingerers, the druggies, the 20 year olds on disability, the illegals, the ghetto mamas with 3 kids by 3 different baby daddies... all of the already use the "free" ER and b#tch about it.

I'm thinking that they will be in for a rude awakening when the ER is taken away from them and they are made to wait for CT scans, labs and other things.

30 posted on 03/17/2010 6:54:45 PM PDT by erman (Our President-A modest man, who has much to be modest about.)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe these retiring physicians will go underground to see that people in direst need of medical care will get it.

I’d be overjoyed to pay a doctor cash for care done under the radar if it helps me stay alive when The Dark Emperor’s “Josef Mengele Medical Corps” is trying to kill me.


31 posted on 03/17/2010 7:08:36 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Does anyone have any idea who runs this “group” who say they represent “450,000 doctors and medical students” who support nobama care? Are they some front group or something and “full of it”? Their site is http://www.healhealthcarenow.org


32 posted on 03/17/2010 7:30:13 PM PDT by hal ogen
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To: Inspectorette

That is actually a very good assessment...It would not surprise me one bit that this will be implemented...


33 posted on 03/17/2010 7:36:38 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: LaMudBug

My cousin, who is in his pre-med studies told me last year that half of what is left of his class are changing their majors at the end of their 4th year...This appears to be a general trend across the nation in other schools of medicine...

Only the dedicated are sticking to it...They’d be a doctor for free, as he says...


34 posted on 03/17/2010 7:39:31 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: hal ogen

They used to be a valid group of doctors. Not so anymore.

They’ve teamed-up with the Herndon Allliance which is associated with LaRaza.


35 posted on 03/17/2010 7:43:16 PM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: stevie_d_64

It wouldn’t surprise me either, but it scares the he** out of me.


36 posted on 03/17/2010 7:47:20 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Kaslin

I wish people would stop with the bogus “covering 31 million more patients” stuff. Those 31 million have health care, the just don’t have health insurance: they go to public hospitals with a duty to treat, or to charity clinics, or pay out-of-pocket.

None of us here on FR should let our minds be befogged by the left’s Newspeak use of the phrase “health care” to mean any of “health care”, “health insurance”, “government run health care”, “government run health insurance”, or even “health care reform”, at The Party’s whim.

Losing 45% of physician, or even 20% of physicians, will destroy our health care system, but not because we’ll also be treating 31 million more people, we’ll just be paying confiscatory insurance rates and drastically higher taxes to provide insurance for those who get their health care without insurance now.


37 posted on 03/17/2010 8:13:06 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: AlanD

I just visited one of my medical specialist after a four year laspe. The first thing he did was ask what insurance did I have. When I told Tricare for live and Medicare he said fine. Then proceeded to examine me.
I suspect many doctors will shut down because the will not except Medicare patients without other insurance. Because when this bill passes they get a 21% cut in fee payments from what it is right now.
No doctor will be able to open a private clinic, and they will be paid according to Government fee schedules. Yet, they will be open for law suits because of being limited on what they can do for the patient. By the time everything kicks in, after paying taxes for four years on program there will be very few doctors available.


38 posted on 03/18/2010 1:22:14 AM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: AlanD

I just visited one of my medical specialist after a four year laspe. The first thing he did was ask what insurance did I have. When I told Tricare for live and Medicare he said fine. Then proceeded to examine me.
I suspect many doctors will shut down because the will not except Medicare patients without other insurance. Because when this bill passes they get a 21% cut in fee payments from what it is right now.
No doctor will be able to open a private clinic, and they will be paid according to Government fee schedules. Yet, they will be open for law suits because of being limited on what they can do for the patient. By the time everything kicks in, after paying taxes for four years on program there will be very few doctors available.


39 posted on 03/18/2010 1:28:01 AM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: All

The way I look at this it seems that many are just in it

for the money anyway,,,

They really don’t care about the people,,,

Our old family Doc was raisin’ hell about this over 40 years ago,,,

Then he would start on the “damned” insurance companies,,,

By 08:30 he had made hospital rounds and was in the office.

By 17:00 he had seen all that had come into the office,,,

After supper he would make house calls till way after dark.

I guess I have a problem with math here,,,

Seems to me that more hours worked would mean more money,,,

That’s the way I’ve always had to do it...


40 posted on 03/18/2010 3:13:58 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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