[Gabrial]

I think it is time for McCain to retire. We need new, more vigorous leaders.

[TomGuy]

I think it is time for McCain to retire.

McCain will never retire. He is one of those old timers, like Byrd, Kennedy, Thurmond, et al.

He will be there until they carry him out on a stretcher, unless the voters finally get enough. The trouble with that is McCain now thinks that AZ Senate seat is his forever, just like the politicos in MA thought that seat belonged to the Kennedys. If the voters reelect him, he will be right.