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1 posted on 03/14/2010 1:34:49 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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It’s all in Jonah Goldberg’s book: “Liberal Fascism”.


2 posted on 03/14/2010 1:36:05 PM PDT by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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This is pretty bad, but no one is going to do anything about it.

...not with a bang, but a whimper.


3 posted on 03/14/2010 1:36:48 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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“Have you learned yet?
Crown me or we shall destroy the GOP again.
Now go buy my book, and play with your bananas.”

4 posted on 03/14/2010 1:38:44 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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a government by fiat

Shorter word: "Dictatorship"

5 posted on 03/14/2010 1:40:23 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property....)
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Voting to “accept the rule” will be the equivalent of voting for the senate bill. Dems can’t believe they’ll get by with this fraudulent scam of the American public.


6 posted on 03/14/2010 1:48:48 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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By what this Democrat has just said the Democrat Party of America has declared war on America, war against the Constitution they are sworn to uphold and they have declared war on the American people. This is the non-violent take-over of The Untied States of America by an American political party. This is war. There is a season to everything under Heaven. A season for Peace and a season of War. We’ve come to the latter season. The Democrat Party has with deliberate and malicious intent bought this situation about in planned and deliberate move to seize power in the US and radically transform our Constitutional Democracy to a centrally controlled socialist,quasi-police state. This is serious. These bastards have got to be stopped.


8 posted on 03/14/2010 1:51:25 PM PDT by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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This isn't the complete story.

The bill isn't going to be legally effective if quasi adopted under the Slaughter rule. The article is correct as far as it goes--the adoption process wouldn't comply with the Constitution and they don't have law, even when the Senate bill is signed by Obama.

The reason they are doing this is to have a claim that they have complied with the Reconciliation Rule in the Senate--that they have a bill that is legally effective to reconcile to. So they can then take the House bill to the Parliamentarian of the Senate and get him to approve a motion on the rules to get the bill to the floor.

Then, if the Parliamentarian says ok, they take the House bill to the floor under reconciliation rules and either the Senate passes it intact; or amends it and passes it as amended in which case it goes back to the House; or it fails on the Senate floor.

If the later, I don't think they have law. But if they can do either one of the first two alternatives followed in the case of the second by adoption by the House, they have law even though the initial passage of the Senate bill was ineffective.

11 posted on 03/14/2010 1:53:11 PM PDT by David (...)
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And BTW, Ms. Slaughter is an absolute stupid phoney jackass.


12 posted on 03/14/2010 1:54:17 PM PDT by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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This will not stand.

Obama and the Democrat congress are already on thin ice with the American people and if they try to use the 'Slaughter Rule' to ram through Obamacare without a vote, there will be a citizen revolt. Enough is enough.

14 posted on 03/14/2010 1:55:30 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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The fact they are even considering this is very scary. They are not in the least bit interested in what the ‘people’ want.


19 posted on 03/14/2010 2:03:22 PM PDT by lacrew (Barack Obama is always the least experienced most condescending guy in the room. (Rush))
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Rule by Royal Decree. That worked out so well for King George III.


24 posted on 03/14/2010 2:10:37 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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IMO, Pelosi, Reid, the Fuhrer, his thug Administration, and the RATs in Congress are wiping their rears on our Constitution.


25 posted on 03/14/2010 2:13:07 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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violation to the legislative process defined by the U.S Constitution.


If the dems can get away with this why can’t republicans change the rules to override a presidential veto when they take over congress this Novmeber? Perhaps a simple majority could override a presidential veto. Wouldn’t that infuriate the dems?

It’d be the congressional way to neutralize the executive branch. Just think of the mischief it would allow. LOL


39 posted on 03/14/2010 2:58:58 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (The bigger the government = The smaller the people)
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I “deem” any such act an act of treason, as it violates their oath to uphold the Costitution. Since it is a treasonous act, compliance is complicity in treason.

Fight, fight and fight some more. The choice is either freedom or chains. Since slavery is outlawed, any law that wou;d enslave us is invalid.


41 posted on 03/14/2010 3:02:58 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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PLEASE DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER!!

Okay, here's a TIME post listing those times when Republicans hve used the self-executing rule or so-called Slaughter Solution -- complete with quotes from Dems SCREAMING about Republicans using the self-executing rule. You see, there's really nothing new in Washington....

And here's a post supporting the constitutionality of the self-executing rule.

I'm not a constitutional lawyer, so all this beats me. But the fact is the so-called Slaughter solution, or self-executing rule, has been used before and has been used by Republicans, who only recently started calling it the Slaughter Solution because LOL it sounds so nasty.

42 posted on 03/14/2010 3:04:43 PM PDT by kittykat77
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Boehner should take to the House floor tomorrow and call for her immediate expulsion, IMO.


46 posted on 03/14/2010 3:31:03 PM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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Soylent Green, You Tube has many more scenes...worth watching a few.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MjoPzQUKCU&NR=1

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.

KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts

Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-800-828-0498
1-866-220-0044


51 posted on 03/14/2010 3:54:26 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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52 posted on 03/14/2010 3:54:42 PM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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it’s time for the people to be heard. there are three ways:

1. violence
2. voting
3. protesting

while we reserve #1, #2 has shown itself ineffectuve as they stuff the ballot boxes and shutdown FBI investigations once in power. that leaves protest... but as we saw last fallen, even putting 2.5m people on their steps doesn’t matter to these people. so what can be done?

I believe the last step before violence would be financial. I understand the fedgov would disregard and jut print the money it needs... but it is a last step

as such, I would propose a protest website where people would pledge not to pay their income taxes... but instead file the forms and place the money in an interest bearing, offshore escrow account.

once the fedgov is back in line with the Constitution, the monies would be released

thoughts?


53 posted on 03/14/2010 4:06:43 PM PDT by sten
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I keep telling you all what it really is...


54 posted on 03/14/2010 4:40:06 PM PDT by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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