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Posted on 03/13/2010 6:46:36 PM PST by rabscuttle385
There is nothing conservative about the war in Afghanistan. The Center for Defense Information said a few months ago that we had spent over $400 billion on the war and war-related costs there. Now, the Pentagon says it will cost about $1 billion for each 1,000 additional troops we send to Afghanistan. One Republican Member from California told me recently that we could buy off every warlord in Afghanistan for $1 billion.
Fiscal conservatives should be the ones most horrified by all this spending. Conservatives who oppose big government and huge deficit spending at home should not support it in foreign countries just because it is being done by our biggest bureaucracy, the Defense Department.
We have now spent $1.5 trillion that we did not have--that we had to borrow--in Iraq and Afghanistan. Eight years is long enough. In fact, it is too long. Let's bring our troops home and start putting Americans first once again.
Paul of course who is another hard core fiscal conservative & they are both right because it is true that there is nothing conservative about war.
Is that the voice of reason I hear?
You've got to be kidding. NEO-conservative maybe, but when did conservatism change to the point where it thinks it's necessary to spread democracy around the world?
When did the conservative opinion say that it is not necessary anymore to go to war w/o a formal declaration of war by Congress as the Constitution requires?
When did the conservative view act as if the President has the authority to put our troops in harm's way on his own?
I always thought that the conservative view was to mind our own business re: the internal affairs of other nations while @ the same time being fully armed & 110% prepared in case we are attacked.
Silly me.
Correction: that is NOT a conservative value. You should be more careful when you proofread your posts. “Democracy building” is a PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL value. Look at who started it, with the League of Nations: Woodrow Wilson, the Socialist progressive Dumbocrat.
Correction: that is NOT a conservative value. You should be more careful when you proofread your posts. “Democracy building” is a PROGRESSIVE/LIBERAL value. Look at who started it, with the League of Nations: Woodrow Wilson, the Socialist progressive Dumbocrat.
We spend far more on welfare and other entitlements.
Whacking terrorists is in the best interests of our national security.
How 'bout we go after spending on garbage like in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants, TARP and other such nonsense instead?
Good point Allegra.
Some people think by letting the enemy take over other countries while flying planes into New York City bldgs
and shooting up and killing people on an American Army Base
and trying to set off a bomb in a plane over Detroit
along with bombing areas of London, Madrid, and the list goes on.
What ever amount of money we save, if and when the enemy take over here, it won’t do us any good when we are dead.
We Win, They Lose!
Of course...but that's no excuse for wasting taxpayer's $ or spending it in areas that are not proscribed by the Constitution simply 'cuz you think it's "needed", Allegra.
How 'bout we go after spending on garbage like in-state college tuition for illegal immigrants, TARP and other such nonsense instead?
BOTH of you are right. Quit whining about where to begin & START SOMEWHERE, OK? We need an America First/protect our borders defense policy rather than the current (& decades long) progressive one which promotes spreading democracy around the globe. Bring our troops home & place them along our borders, sea ports, & airports. We need to make Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback" look like child's play!
I live 20 miles north of the largest and busiest border crossing in the world. San Diego - Tijuana.
When the Mexicans start flying planes into bldgs in NYC and shooting up U.S. Army base killing several people, when they have bombed areas of London and other parts of Europe and other parts of the world.
When their leaders have declared war on America and
the infidels. When they draw in blond hair American women into their terror plots.
I will then put my focus 100% on them and not the IslamOfascists who declared war on and Attacked our country.
Don’t tell me all the usual stuff.
I was in a counter rally vs. 50,000 Mexicans a few years
ago here. I know the drill and the rhetoric.
Don’t care for illegals but if someone thinks they can cover all of America and spend the next years rounding up 13 million + illegals and shipping back while the liberal media, ACLU and everyother left wing outfit fight
this you have sucked in too much on the bong.
When Ike did the Wetback there was a small fraction.
I know, I remember when Ike was Pres.
You can put up a 30 foot high wall from San Diego to TX,
they will still come here.
there are coming up the coast from Tijuana and landing on the San Diego beaches at 2 - 3AM boats 20+ at a time.
And thank God we don't have any soldiers in Germany or Japan anymore.
Tell that to his earmarks.
also South Korea. It is so safe there now with North Korea and their nucks. But remember Ron Paul said Iran and North Korea are not a threat.
For over 8 years now our soldiers have fought a war while crippled by insane Rules of Engagement, againsst an enemy whose compatriots emigrate to America and are cultured and protected by CAIR. Their numbers have swollen to a dangerous level along with illegal aliens breaking into our country over the Mexican border. On the weekend 3 of our US Consul employees were shot dead at the border by Cartel killers. Pres. Zero was "shocked" and has done nothing.
The illegal invasion was allowed to flourish thanks to Bill Klinton and George Bush, now 0bama.
Approx. 30% of felons in US prisons are illegal aliens.
And when our soldiers do some whacking & get rid of a beast, they have to worry about court-martial! This is obscene.
O no. Do not tell me that you are confused about the purpose of earmarks. Earmarks are not pork barrel spending but rather an accounting practice used to KEEP TRACK OF THE MONEY which is being spent. Are you then saying that we should not keep track of the spending the Congress engages in? The purpose of earmarks is to track how government spends money & just exactly where it goes. Dispensing with this practice is tantamount to saying that we should not know how much government spends & should be kept in the dark.
What good is freeing the mideast only to enslave ourselves to the Chicoms?
You keep believin’ that. I’m glad it lets you sleep at night.
First of all, climb down off of that high horse. You've no business whatsoever being up there. You can take the condescending attitude and pound sand with it.
BOTH of you are right. Quit whining about where to begin & START SOMEWHERE, OK?
Nice projection. I believe it is you along with Code Pink, ANSWER, et al that does an awful lot of whining.
There is no point in our discussing this any further because:
a) of your attitude
b)I am a Christian who will never worship any politician and can clearly delineate common sense due to the clarity of vision provided. I don't even understand worshipful cult members and what motivates that sort of thing.
Have a lovely day.
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