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War not conservative (Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn.)
U.S. Rep. John J. Duncan, R-Tenn., 2nd District ^ | 2010-03-14

Posted on 03/13/2010 6:46:36 PM PST by rabscuttle385

There is nothing conservative about the war in Afghanistan. The Center for Defense Information said a few months ago that we had spent over $400 billion on the war and war-related costs there. Now, the Pentagon says it will cost about $1 billion for each 1,000 additional troops we send to Afghanistan. One Republican Member from California told me recently that we could buy off every warlord in Afghanistan for $1 billion.

Fiscal conservatives should be the ones most horrified by all this spending. Conservatives who oppose big government and huge deficit spending at home should not support it in foreign countries just because it is being done by our biggest bureaucracy, the Defense Department.

We have now spent $1.5 trillion that we did not have--that we had to borrow--in Iraq and Afghanistan. Eight years is long enough. In fact, it is too long. Let's bring our troops home and start putting Americans first once again.


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1 posted on 03/13/2010 6:46:36 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: bamahead; Bokababe; dcwusmc; Captain Kirk; djsherin
Fiscal conservatives should be the ones most horrified by all this spending. Conservatives who oppose big government and huge deficit spending at home should not support it in foreign countries just because it is being done by our biggest bureaucracy, the Defense Department.

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2 posted on 03/13/2010 6:47:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMnj8yd8dqA
3 posted on 03/13/2010 6:49:04 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
One Republican Member from California told me recently that we could buy off every warlord in Afghanistan for $1 billion.

That's been my thought from the get-go.

4 posted on 03/13/2010 6:50:29 PM PST by Hugin (Remember the first rule of gunfighting...have a gun..-- Col. Jeff Cooper)
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To: rabscuttle385
How long will they stay bought off?

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
5 posted on 03/13/2010 6:52:29 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: rabscuttle385
One Republican Member from California told me recently that we could buy off every warlord in Afghanistan for $1 billion

Yeah, and like any whore that can be bought for money, they will turn round and screw with others, right after taking our money. What is America going to do when the Taliban take our money, then turn round and start another jihad with Al Quaeda, the moment US troops leave Afghanistan?
And what will this congressman do, if Al Quaeda come and bomb New York again, after we've left Afghanistan because we “paid off the warlords”?

6 posted on 03/13/2010 6:54:45 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: rabscuttle385
Looks like someone else has been drinking the Kook-Aid...

Que up the 9-11 pics.


7 posted on 03/13/2010 6:59:31 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: ConorMacNessa
How long will they stay bought off?

My question as well. It is a fact that there are folks out there, mostly Islamists and communists, who will just not let us rest as long as we have any wealth and we do not serve their god.

8 posted on 03/13/2010 7:00:09 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: darkwing104
Looks like someone else has been drinking the Kook-Aid...

Jimmy Duncan is a Hard-Core Conservative.
Click here for explanation of political philosophy.
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9 posted on 03/13/2010 7:01:32 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: ConorMacNessa

IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation,
To call upon a neighbour and to say:
“We invaded you last night - we are quite prepared to fight,
“Unless you pay us cash to go away.”

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld
And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:
“Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
“We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we’ve proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray,
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:

“We never pay any one Dane-geld,
No matter how trifling the cost,
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!”

—Rudyard Kipling


10 posted on 03/13/2010 7:02:20 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: rabscuttle385
"Jimmy Duncan is a Hard-Core Conservative."

Who apparently doesn't even begin to understand the capacity, lethality, or perseverance of the enemy we face.

11 posted on 03/13/2010 7:04:28 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: rabscuttle385

The war is dishonest because our borders are wide open and our “leaders” fight to keep them open. We face an insurrection here at home while our best and bravest fight a hopeless war with insane Rules of Engagement, and fighting men courts-martialed for doing what they are sworn to do!!


12 posted on 03/13/2010 7:04:40 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: rabscuttle385

Fiscal conservatives also like to stay alive. This guy sounds like Ron Paul.


13 posted on 03/13/2010 7:05:28 PM PST by dforest
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To: RichInOC
Quite so, Rich! Another one I like is "We have millions of dollars for defense and not a penny for tribute!"

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
14 posted on 03/13/2010 7:06:25 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: JimSEA
We looked to Pres. Bush for solutions, after 9-11, put our faith & trust in him, but he told the world "Islam is a religion of peace"!! and proceeded to kowtow to CAIR, his friends the Saudis, while ordering troops to Afghanistan--it was widely known that major terrorist training camps were in Saudi Arabia and some of the hijackers had trained there. They should have been bombed to the Stone Age, for starters.

In the NINTH year of this war now; WWII--the World War--was over in six years, US part against Japan and Germany less than FOUR years. Unconditional surrender.

15 posted on 03/13/2010 7:15:36 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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The purpoas of the war has changed from retaliation to democracy building, and that is a conservative value.


16 posted on 03/13/2010 7:41:40 PM PST by webboy45
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To: molybdenum
WWII--the World War--was over in six years, US part against Japan and Germany less than FOUR years. Unconditional surrender.

Followed by decades of occupation, rebuilding, and incorporation into our defense alliances to keep them from sliding back and being attacked or seduced by other forces even worse than they.

We continue to maintain bases in both countries and to let their enemies know that to get to them you have to go through us.

17 posted on 03/13/2010 7:43:04 PM PST by marron
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To: rabscuttle385
When your are willing to barter with agents of the enemy your political leanings no longer matter...


18 posted on 03/13/2010 7:51:59 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Hugin

True, I think the whole point is to surround Iran, we should just nuke the whole area and be done with it.


19 posted on 03/13/2010 7:53:54 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: marron
Well, it's debatable whether we should even have entered the First world war, but I know this: In WWII, we fought to kill the enemy or when possible, take prisoners. If that wasn't the case, they were NOT turned loose to kill our guys. The Allies did the same. And at home, the FBI went aggressively after saboteurs, nazi-symps, communists too. Some were shot, others indicted & imprisoned . We had no immigration of the enemy and our borders were NOT open. And -- there was no social experiment in the armed services, such as females in combat, dont ask & dont tell, sennnsitivity training, or any other PC sh@t.

Our _resident, our SecDef & JCS and Pentagon are all compromised. Rumsfeld may have been OK, but he is long gone, and besides, he too had to follow orders.

There has been, and continues to be, a great swarm of contractors who are very rich from these wars. And our boys come home in coffins with the flag to grieving families.

20 posted on 03/13/2010 8:11:29 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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