Man-made carbon emissions: But it is bad news for the polar bears Posted on 03/12/2010 9:51:13 PM PST by neverdem
Man-made carbon emissions: But it is bad news for the polar bears
MAN-MADE carbon emissions are staving off a new ice age, says a leading environmental scientist.
Climate-change expert Dr James Lovelock says the greenhouse gases that have warmed the planet are likely to prevent a big freeze that could last millions of years.
In a talk at London’s Science Museum Dr Lovelock said the balance of nature was in charge of the environment.
He said: “We’re just fiddling around. It is worth thinking that what we are doing in creating all these carbon emissions, far from being something frightful, is stopping the onset of a new ice age.
“If we hadn’t appeared on the earth, it would be due to go through another ice age and we can look at our part as holding that up.
“I hate all this business about feeling guilty about what we’re doing.
“We’re not guilty, we never intended to pump CO2 into the atmosphere, it’s just something we did.”
Dr Lovelock’s comments come in the wake of the scandal at the University of East Anglia where leaked emails suggested climate change data had been manipulated.
The 90-year-old British scientist, who has worked for Nasa and paved the way for the detection of man-made aerosol and refrigerant gases in the atmosphere, called for greater caution in climate research.
He compared the recent controversy to the “wildly inaccurate” early work on aerosol gases and their alleged role in depletion of the ozone layer.
He said: “Quite often, observations done by hand are accurate but all the theoretical stuff in between tends to be very dodgy and I think they are seeing this with climate change. We haven’t learned the lessons of the ozone-hole debate. It’s important to know just how much you have got to be careful.”
According to Dr Lovelock’s Gaia theory, the earth is capable of curing itself. “A planet that is effectively alive can regulate itself and its composition and climate,” he said.
Thomas Crowley, professor of geoscience at Edinburgh University, responded: “People have thought about the possibility of an ice age but it wouldn’t be for many thousands of years.
“Dr Lovelock might be right in the abstract but this does not necessarily mean that CO2 is good now.”
Oh, no. Another Gaia believer.
Whoa! What a complete flip-flop from one of the High Priests of Gorebal Warming. Lovelock has either gone totally senile or realizes the fraud has been outed and it’s CYA time.
I had a rather passionate geology prof in college who always went on about how much he loved smog, because it was keeping us safe from something catastrophic. I probably wasn’t paying attention enough in class to not remember what it was, but I remember two things about the class: his gratitude, to the point of tears, over particles in the air as protection for the earth, and how unfair it was that we had to learn about the plate tectonics on MARS too, when I thought I’d only signed up for EARTH geology...
What everyone overlooks about a new ice age, is that as water is locked up in ice at higher latitudes, more land around the continents, sometimes all the way out to the continental shelves, becomes available. It was certainly that way the last go’round.
Lots of areas presently underwater in the Gulf of Mexico were actually above sea level. Same thing off the west coast of North America.
From UNIVERSITY of WISCONSIN (Dec. 2008)
SAN FRANCISCO — The common wisdom is that the invention of the steam engine and the advent of the coal-fueled industrial age marked the beginning of human influence on global climate.
But gathering physical evidence, backed by powerful simulations on the world's most advanced computer climate models, is reshaping that view and lending strong support to the radical idea that human-induced climate change began not 200 years ago, but thousands of years ago with the onset of large-scale agriculture in Asia and extensive deforestation in Europe.
What's more, according to the same computer simulations, the cumulative effect of thousands of years of human influence on climate is preventing the world from entering a new glacial age, altering a clockwork rhythm of periodic cooling of the planet that extends back more than a million years. . .
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-12/uow-sde121708.php
The Gaia crowd either believe that humans are not part of the nature system or that Gaia is self destructive. If the former they must also believe that God and Gaia are in deep conflict. If the latter why bother?
What is the latest Doomsday version du jour?
It’s an ice age we are doomed.
No it’s global warming we are doomed.
No it’s the Ozone layer disappearing we are doomed.
No it’s a meteor we are doomed.
No it’s a dark star hurling comets and meteors at us we are doomed.
No it’s the sun spots we are doomed.
No it’s 2012 the Mayan’s predicted we are doomed.
The planet is over populated we are doomed.
Am I the only one that sees that this is all BS?
That’s been my view. Man is an insignificant speck on the earth when viewed in totality. I once read that you could put all humans in Texas, theoretically, with enough land to comfortably live on (I don’t know what the calculations were, but having driven through Texas too many times, it seemed reasonable:)
“I once read that you could put all humans in Texas, theoretically, with enough land to comfortably live on (I don’t know what the calculations were, but having driven through Texas too many times, it seemed reasonable:)”
We don’t want’em. The population of Texas has doubled over the past twenty years or so. We’ve got enough. In fact, we need for the Border Patrol to start patroling the Red River in addition to the Rio Grande River if you ask me.
LOL. I didn’t say you wanted them.
Man’s influence on climate is so powerful that no doubt, one day they will discover that we can stop hurricanes by simply spitting in the wind!
“LOL. I didn’t say you wanted them.”
Glad to see that you have a sense of humor. Comment was meant to be “tongue in checck” as you took it. It’s been a long standing joke among we native born Texans that the Border Patrol is guarding the wrong river. Point of joke being all those northern transplants. Actually, I have many friends from this demographic and the vast majority are great people and over time are converted to good Texans. Then, of course, there is that small minority that we would like to send back :)...
According to Dr Lovelock’s Gaia theory, the earth is capable of curing itself. “A planet that is effectively alive can regulate itself and its composition and climate,” he said.
Wow. What a 'radical' theory. Dr Lovelock must be an escaped psycho.
Then again, he's got 4.5 Billion years of the earth's existence to back him up. While the Global Warming Cultists have a phony, manipulated, 'computer model' on their side.
Gee, this is a tough one to pick sides on: the Earth or a Computer model... hmmmm??? 
[However Lovelock should dump that 'Gaia' garbage.]
Between 5,000 and 6,000 years overdue.
Without writing and sandwiches (the end stage product of agriculture) no one would know about this stuff.
The Milankovitch Cycles are not as regular as most people assume. There is a lot of variation over time.
The forward projections for the Milankovitch Cycle show that this will be an unusually long interglacial period.
Summer Solar insolation in the far north, which when it declines enough kicks off an ice age, is not projected to fall enough to cause an ice age for at least 15,000 years (and it might take even 50,000 years).
Don buy this crap, on a global level man cannot effect long term climate one bit, to think otherwise is hubristic.
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