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To: indylindy

Sorry; not all Mexicans are marching in the streets; and I am very much opposed to La Raza and their curriculum in our schools, but you cannot win in AZ if you come across hateful to a large group of our CITIZENS of Mexican descent.

These threads are based more on emotion than logic.


63 posted on 03/12/2010 12:45:34 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert; BunnySlippers; indylindy; TigersEye; AuntB; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker
These threads are based more on emotion than logic.

McCain's spokesman basically called ALIPAC an "extreme group that condone[s] racism." Do you agree with this charge?

According to ALIPAC (press release at post 32),

John McCain's campaign just sent out a press release citing inaccurate information from a left wing pro-Democrat blog called the Phoenix New Times. The McCain campaign makes the false claim that ALIPAC supports, endorses, and uses racially charged terms such as "Wetback" and "Pepper belly" and that ALIPAC is supported by the KKK.

IMO, some unknown racist (i.e., a troll) went on ALIPAC's message boards and spewed racism quoted directly "from a pro-Amnesty blogger website."

In other words, the left-wingers are attacking conservatives and McCain seized the opportunity to join in. McCain is running interference for Obama and the progressives and you (and BunnySlippers) are defending him.

TigersEye is right. You two need to lay off the Kool-Aid.

69 posted on 03/12/2010 12:54:01 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: DLfromthedesert

It’s sad that these days people cannot trust the words put out there by people running for office claiming to want to serve the people. Who knows the truth about what each of these camps did or did not do/say? Seems to me that both camps are playing both sides against the middle with their misquotes and claims of misquotes. It is MHO that the illegal immigration issue must remain on the highroad - that is, public servants must stop allowing the fringe on either side to use them. Public servants who are for border security and enforcing our immigration laws need to stay away from groups who only promote hatred and use racist bigotry. If not, then these public servants are guilty of allowing law abiding citizens to be painted as racist by the liberal loons. McCain is guilty of this and needs to be replaced.


70 posted on 03/12/2010 12:54:20 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Citizens of Mexican descent who are citizens I have no problem with. I would feel the same way if the French were illegally coming across our borders and expecting free citizenship and taxpayer funded benefits.

This is the way folks like you try to cloud the issue at hand. They are welcome here if they apply and become legal citizens, pay taxes, speak English. They need to apply through the front door and stand in line with those that are doing the right thing.


72 posted on 03/12/2010 12:54:46 PM PST by dforest
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To: DLfromthedesert
Really? It's emotional, because our country is being overrun by illegals who are receiving benefits from our tax money, including large groups like LaRaza--Reconquista--who hate us because we are gringos, blacks, Asians et al? LaRaza means The Race, and is exclusive of other races. America is bankrupt. One third of illegals are in prison for felonies--murder, rape, armed robbery, etc. No country in history has survived a mass invasion of people from other countries.

You are falling into the libtard/McCain trap of thinking "racism" at any protest of this invasion. Wake up.

75 posted on 03/12/2010 12:57:41 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: DLfromthedesert
These threads are based more on emotion than logic.

Emotions? Now why would anyone, genuinely concerned for their country, be emotional about being called a racist? That's not logical. /s

79 posted on 03/12/2010 1:04:08 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: DLfromthedesert
Maybe you speak fluent Spanish? You can set up a class here on FR and teach us gringos--we will need to learn it because they will be taking over large parts of the country--first the SW & SoCal, with the Reconquista.

I have lived around Mexicans all my life, went to school with them and all learned and were proud to be Americans. But that was a long time ago. This is a new breed, with an agenda driven by White (Pink!) Leftists such as McCain--and it started with his good friend, Ted Kennedy.

BTW, there are other people besides Mexicans who cross the border: Mid-Easterners including Islamo fascists, So & Central Americans, Europeans including Islamic, (some of McCain's good friends are KLA). McCain is beyond shameful.

99 posted on 03/12/2010 1:26:21 PM PST by molybdenum ((A nation without borders is not a nation......Ronald Reagan.))
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To: DLfromthedesert; indylindy; All

“but you cannot win in AZ if you come across hateful to a large group of our CITIZENS of Mexican descent.”

Wrong again, but at least you’re consistent. Wanting the law enforced is not ‘hateful’.....you are not thinking, you are ‘feeling’...why do you identify with illegal aliens?

The overall findings of this poll show a significant divide between the perception that minority voters want legalization and increased legal immigration and the reality, which is that they want enforcement and less immigration

In contrast to the leadership of many ethnic advocacy groups, most members of minority groups think immigration is too high.

* Hispanics: 56 percent said it is too high; 7 percent said too low; 14 percent just right. * Asian-Americans: 57 percent said immigration is too high; 5 percent said too low; 18 percent just right. * African-Americans: 68 percent said it is too high; 4 percent said too low; 14 percent just right.

Most members of minority groups do not feel that illegal immigration is caused by limits on legal immigration as many ethnic advocacy groups argue; instead, members feel it’s due to a lack of enforcement.

* Hispanics: Just 20 percent said illegal immigration was caused by not letting in enough legal immigrants; 61 percent said inadequate enforcement. * Asian-Americans: 19 percent said not enough legal immigration; 69 percent said inadequate enforcement. * African-Americans: 16 percent said not enough legal immigration; 70 percent said inadequate enforcement.

Most members of minority groups feel that there are plenty of Americans available to fill unskilled jobs.

“In contrast to the leadership of many ethnic advocacy groups, most members of minority groups think immigration is too high.”

“immigration is caused by limits on legal immigration as many ethnic advocacy groups argue; instead, members feel it’s due to a lack of enforcement.”[snips]

http://cis.org/Minority-Views-Immigration


102 posted on 03/12/2010 1:28:42 PM PST by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: DLfromthedesert
Sorry; not all Mexicans are marching in the streets; and I am very much opposed to La Raza and their curriculum in our schools, but you cannot win in AZ if you come across hateful to a large group of our CITIZENS of Mexican descent.

And when has Hayworth done so? He wants illegal aliens deported and wants legal immigrants to Americanize.
Don't you?
115 posted on 03/12/2010 1:42:57 PM PST by rmlew (The left has elected a new nation with the help of neoconservatives and libertarians.)
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To: DLfromthedesert; All

“you cannot win in AZ if you come across hateful to a large group of our CITIZENS of Mexican descent.

BULLsssssssss4it!!

The Americans of Mexican origin that I know here in Arizona are every bit as anti illegal as we are!


127 posted on 03/12/2010 2:31:19 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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