Posted on 03/12/2010 10:41:17 AM PST by RS_Rider
A state judge will not grant an injunction stopping changes to Pennsylvania's residential and commercial building codes, including mandatory fire sprinkler systems for new homes.
Commonwealth Court Judge Johnny Butler said in a Wednesday order that the petition by the Pennsylvania Builders Association and private developers does nothing to address the underlying issue they are citing.
The builders' January lawsuit is still standing. It says changes written by an outside code commission and adopted Dec. 31 by the state are unconstitutional delegations of lawmaking authority.
It says the recent updates to the codes will increase the cost of construction and hurt homebuyers. The U.S. Fire Administration claims a sprinkler system would cost $1 to $1.50 per square foot to install, but the Builders Association of Metropolitan Pittsburgh puts the cost at $2.25 to $3.50, depending on home size and installation complexity.
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Bullcrap! Get your story straight.
The judge refuses to grant an injunction against a lawfully passed building/safety code by the state (via legislative authority, rulemaking, etc.)
The problem is with the people allowing the laws/rules to be made in the first place.
This is NOT the judges fault.
Socialist people get the government they deserve.
Contrary to popular belief, sprinklers are not there to save the structure, they are there to give the people in the building more time to get out.
I think domestic sprinkler systems are supposed to be more about saving lives than saving houses.
I’m wondering, given the generaly quality of the workmanship that goes into most new houses, what the chances are that the things would even work properly if they are ever needed, anyway. It’ll be a great boon to sprinkler installation companies, though.
Oops, wrong about the judge.
My main point was that it is now going to be legally mandated that new homes be built with an expensive system that not only raises the price of a new home substantially but forces a system into your home that can potentially so major damage to your home if accidentally triggered.
I suspect you put it to a vote in Penn you'll get a "if it saves just one life, isn't it worth it" fallacy fantasy answer from a majority of the population.
Yup, our electorate here in PA never pass up a new tax, fee, regulation or corrupt connected candidate.
Most folks don’t understand how toxic the combustion products of a fire can be. Modern homes are stuffed with plastic from the carpet up. When that burns it gives off stuff that can kill you before you can get out.
Two firefighters died recently in a fire when a shift in the wind blew smoke in on them. They had air packs on but had not donned their face masks. One of them died about ten feet from the front door. They had lethal levels of CO and cyanide in their blood.
It doesn’t take long to die when you’re breathing the wrong stuff. Another fact most folks don’t know is how fast a house can become fully involved.
If you have a fire, call 911 and get your family out. Stick around and you’re flirting with death. As others have said a home sprinkler system is designed to give a family a chance of surviving a fire.
Don’t look for the PA homebuilding industry to revive anytime soon.
Obviously Toll Brothers and Ryan Homes were not giving enough money to Democrats.
Imagine the quality of a Maronda Home sprinkler system.
I did some work for Ryan back in the day. They had hired a kid on one of their crews who had been fired from multiple grocery packing jobs. Union grocery packing jobs!
Do you keep records of who purchases the stickers, I asked?
No, was the answer.
How will anyone check to see if I have the sticker if it is on a buried septic tank I asked?
The person burying the tank is suppose to verify it is their before it is installed.
Well, I'm burying my own tank...
You still have to have the sticker, IT'S THE LAW!
Riiiggghhhtt... Let me get back to you...
That was 10 years ago, my "illegal" septic tank was unlawfully buried minus the $200 sticker and nobody from the local health department has offered to dig it up to make sure the sticker is there, yet.
Safe Escape Fire and Smoke Hood ASE30, Soft Case
We had something much like it above every rack onboard ship, but we called them EEBDs.
It’s always hilarious when “the-more-regulations-the-better” crowd starts whining about the lack of affordable housing...
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I wonder how many years an installed sprinkler system is good for without testing and what kind of procedure would you go through to test the system?
How come the local inspectors never make sure commercial kitchens are up to code?
If a household sprinkler system was $6/sq ft ten years ago, I can’t imagine it being cheaper today. This should boost the existing home sales. I smell a politician with connections to a sprinkler system company. It’s like the endless line of contraptions that they mandate on school buses. They look like rolling Rube Goldbergs.
It’s a lot cheaper to install the system when building the house.
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