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I swear that the gay community does these things on purpose....
1 posted on 03/12/2010 10:20:48 AM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Blue Turtle

Of course they do. This, the lesbian girl down in Mississippi who disrupted her high school prom, the nutso administrators in the Virginia universities that Cuccinelli just recently had to put into their places - it’s all part of an agenda to agitate us into submission.


2 posted on 03/12/2010 10:22:47 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Blue Turtle

“The children’s parents have not spoken publicly, but the school’s decision was leaked to local media by teachers at Sacred Heart who disagree with it.”

The teachers who disagreed with that decision should not be teaching in that school.

The gays are going to hold a forum to decide how to deal with this. They should mind their business. The Church isn’t interested in their opinion.


4 posted on 03/12/2010 10:26:36 AM PST by goldi (')
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To: Blue Turtle

Of course they do, tyranny by the minority.


5 posted on 03/12/2010 10:27:49 AM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Blue Turtle
Denver Archbishop Charles Chaput Statement on lesbian couple case

Catholic schools: Partners in faith with parents

Denver news media have reported in recent days on the case of two children of a lesbian couple in Boulder. The couple was informed by Sacred Heart of Jesus parish school that the older child, whom they were enrolling in kindergarten for next year, would be allowed to attend kindergarten but would not be able to continue into first grade the year after. Their younger child would be welcome to finish preschool, but not continue into kindergarten. Many have wondered why. Sacred Heart of Jesus parish has borne the difficult publicity surrounding this issue, but archdiocesan policy was followed faithfully in this matter, and the policy applies to all Archdiocese of Denver schools.

Some background is important. Then we’ll turn to the human realities involved.

Catholic schools began in this country in the early 19th century. Catholics started them as an alternative to the public schools of the day, which taught a curriculum often hostile to Catholic belief. In many ways times have changed, but the mission of Catholic schools has not. The main purpose of Catholic schools is religious; in other words, to form students in Catholic faith, Catholic morality and Catholic social values.

We take great pride in the academic excellence of our schools as well. The reason is simple. A strong, well-rounded academic education helps to create mature citizens who contribute to the wider community. It’s also true that some of our schools exist as a service outreach in largely non-Catholic communities. Many of our schools also accept students of other faiths and no faith, and from single parent and divorced parent families. These students are always welcome so long as their parents support the Catholic mission of the school and do not offer a serious counter-witness to that mission in their actions.

Our schools, however, exist primarily to serve Catholic families with an education shaped by Catholic faith and moral formation. This is common sense. Other religious traditions do the same according to their beliefs, and at a heavy sacrifice. We need to remember that Catholic families pay twice for a Catholic education: through their taxes, they fund public education; then they pay again to send their children to a Catholic school. The idea that Catholic schools should require support for Catholic teaching for admission, and a serious effort from school families to live their Catholic identity faithfully, is reasonable and just.

That’s the background. Now to the human side of a painful situation. The Church never looks for reasons to turn anyone away from a Catholic education. But the Church can’t change her moral beliefs without undermining her mission and failing to serve the many families who believe in that mission. If Catholics take their faith seriously, they naturally follow the teachings of the Church in matters of faith and morals; otherwise they take themselves outside the believing community.

The Church does not claim that people with a homosexual orientation are “bad,” or that their children are less loved by God. Quite the opposite. But what the Church does teach is that sexual intimacy by anyone outside marriage is wrong; that marriage is a sacramental covenant; and that marriage can only occur between a man and a woman. These beliefs are central to a Catholic understanding of human nature, family and happiness, and the organization of society. The Church cannot change these teachings because, in the faith of Catholics, they are the teachings of Jesus Christ.

The policies of our Catholic school system exist to protect all parties involved, including the children of homosexual couples and the couples themselves. Our schools are meant to be “partners in faith” with parents. If parents don’t respect the beliefs of the Church, or live in a manner that openly rejects those beliefs, then partnering with those parents becomes very difficult, if not impossible. It also places unfair stress on the children, who find themselves caught in the middle, and on their teachers, who have an obligation to teach the authentic faith of the Church.

Most parents who send their children to Catholic schools want an environment where the Catholic faith is fully taught and practiced. That simply can’t be done if teachers need to worry about wounding the feelings of their students or about alienating students from their parents. That isn’t fair to anyone—including the wider school community. Persons who have an understanding of marriage and family life sharply different from Catholic belief are often people of sincerity and good will. They have other, excellent options for education and should see in them the better course for their children.

6 posted on 03/12/2010 10:28:34 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Blue Turtle

It isn’t the kids’ fault their “parents” are lesbians. Why punish them? Accept them. And then teach them the truth, that God’s word condemns homosexual behavior.


7 posted on 03/12/2010 10:29:19 AM PST by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: Blue Turtle
...opponents accuse it of failing to live up to Jesus’ mission of love and acceptance...

"Love" yeah, but where did they get this "acceptence" nonsense?

"Repentence" is the exact OPPOSITE of "acceptence.

9 posted on 03/12/2010 10:33:28 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Blue Turtle
There can be only two reasons for the adult guardians of the children to want them in Catholic school.

Number one would be that they recognize the superiority of faith and tradition, and want those values instilled within the children. In that case, they are a distraction at best, and a trojan horse bent upon destroying the church at worst, their presence will destroy what they see as superior. That will leave the church school in the same condition as public schools eventually.

Number two would be, to make a scene, to destroy the church or corrupt it.

Either way, they have only self interest at the core of their motive, not the good of the school, their children or of others children.

Come quickly Lord Jesus.....please...AMEN.

10 posted on 03/12/2010 10:35:57 AM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: Blue Turtle

Why do non-Catholics want their kids to go to Catholic school?


11 posted on 03/12/2010 10:37:48 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Blue Turtle

YUP they sure do!


19 posted on 03/12/2010 10:44:29 AM PST by brooklyn dave (NO KSM TRIAL IN NYC)
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To: Blue Turtle
"What would Jesus do?"

I don't recall Jesus saying to throw God's Law out the window. He preached compassion. But He also held men to the Law.

21 posted on 03/12/2010 10:47:33 AM PST by montag813
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To: Blue Turtle

Almost al Catholic Schools are subsidized by local parishes. Tuition does not cover all the expenses so the subsidy keeps enrollment steady. Usually, non-Catholics may attend but they have to pay the subsidy and sign releases about the Catholic foundation and the school abides by the teachings of the Church. Until the Church approves of gay relationships they are free to decide who can attend their schools.


23 posted on 03/12/2010 10:54:18 AM PST by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: Blue Turtle

They dare to do it only because they know that they’ll have the support of the Anti Christian Lawyers Union.


26 posted on 03/12/2010 10:59:30 AM PST by 353FMG (What can Islam possibly contribute to the West other than its very destruction?)
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To: Blue Turtle
The education of children within a Catholic school environment is a partnership between the school and the parents. That partnership cannot exist when the parents hold and advocate contrary values to the detriment of the school and the other families involved.
33 posted on 03/12/2010 11:12:55 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: Blue Turtle

Did Jesus teach acceptance?


36 posted on 03/12/2010 11:22:17 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Blue Turtle

Love and acceptance was NOT Jesus’s message.

Why are they the ones who try to define the “message”, twisting it into whatever suits their perversion?

Jesus also said Go and Sin no more....reckon they missed that part.


39 posted on 03/12/2010 11:28:20 AM PST by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09! WTFU!)
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To: Blue Turtle

The sad part of all of this is that I just recently met a parent with the OPPOSITE problem, here on the east side of San Francisco Bay. They were tired of the homosexual agenda in the public schools where their 5 or 6 year old child was attending - with no “opt-out” option available to parents.

As a result, this person, a Conservative Catholic, decided to withdraw their child from the public schools, and move the child to a nearby Catholic School. They wrote a letter to the public school stating that they were withdrawing their child, and explaining why.

When they applied to the Catholic School, they decided to submit with their application a copy of the letter they had sent to the public school, along with an explanation of why they wanted to enroll their child in the Catholic School. They explained in detail about wanting to protect their child from the homosexual agenda, all the while assuming that the Catholic School would be in complete sympathy with them.

Instead, and much to their shock, the Principal of the Catholic School contacted them, and essentially told them that due to their anti-homo views, they would not be able to enroll their child into that Catholic School. Furthermore, the principal informed them that there could be no appeal, that the decision was final. Since the Diocese has an appeal process in place to deal with such issues, the family assumed that the Principal had proactively gone to the Superintedant of the Diocese Catholic Schools, and that the two had already “gotten on the same page” with each other.

This is very shocking to say the least. This particular Diocese has just recently received a new Bishop - who is very Orthodox and Conservative. The family considered meeting with him to complain, and try to reverse the decision. In the end however, they decided not to fight it, and they instead enrolled their child in a Conservative Bapatist elementary school which is teaching all of the Conservative values that the Catholic Schools in this area SHOULD be teaching.

It is a shame that some Catholic Schools are just as entrenched in the homo agenda as the public schools. I hope and pray that our new Bishop will soon start dealing with these situations in the same way the Denver Bishop has.


47 posted on 03/12/2010 11:45:36 AM PST by Zetman
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Catholic School Rejects Children of Lesbian Parents, Sparking Faith Debate

Lesbians Reject Catholic Teaching--Attempt to Force School to Accept Their Child
60 posted on 03/12/2010 12:40:18 PM PST by Antoninus (It's a degenerate society where dogs have more legal rights than unborn babies.)
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To: Blue Turtle; All

I fully support the school’s decision, as they have the right to admit or reject any students they wish. I feel bad for the two kids, since it’s not their fault they’re getting expelled, but the problem lies with the parents. They’re the ones to blame for thinking that nobody there would have a problem with the children of a lesbian couple. It’s a Catholic school - what did you expect?

Let’s say the kids hadn’t been kicked out. What do you think would have happened if those children were sitting in class one day - presumably a Bible class - and the subject of homosexuality came up? What do you think would have happened if those two kids went home and told their two “mommies” that the nuns or teachers at their schools believe that their “mommies” were going to hell for being unrepentant homosexuals? Or that their homosexuality is a sin? I can tell you what would happen. Those two would drag the school through a huge lawsuit, that’s what. This action by the school may very well just be their own form of damage control, although the damage has probably been done as the two women might sue anyway.


85 posted on 03/14/2010 12:13:06 AM PST by inglorious_basterd
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