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House Democrats' 'no' votes are piling up on healthcare reform
The Hill ^

Posted on 03/11/2010 9:15:06 AM PST by Sub-Driver

House Democrats' 'no' votes are piling up on healthcare reform By Bob Cusack - 03/11/10 11:10 AM ET

More than two dozen Democrats are expected to vote against the healthcare reform bill that will hit the House floor in the coming weeks.

At least 25 House Democrats will reject the healthcare reform legislation, according to a survey by The Hill, a review of other media reports and interviews with lawmakers, aides and lobbyists. Dozens of House Democrats are undecided or won't comment on their position on the measure.

The 25 opposed include firm "no" votes and members who are likely "no" votes. Most Democrats on The Hill's whip list are definitely going to vote no, but others, such as Reps. Lincoln Davis (Tenn.) and Harry Teague (N.M.), could vote yes.

However, The Hill has not yet put Democrats who are insisting on Rep. Bart Stupak's (D-Mich.) language on abortion in the "no" category. Stupak has said there are 12 Democrats who supported the House bill in November who will vote no unless his anti-abortion-rights measure is melded into the final bill.

If leadership doesn't make changes to the abortion language and Stupak does indeed have 12 votes in his pocket, it will be very difficult to pass a bill. Yet if they do change the provisions, supporters of abortion rights in the House will threaten to vote no.

The Hill's list does not include members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, who are threatening to vote no unless changes are made to the bill's immigration-related provisions. Most on Capitol Hill believe that language will not be changed and that most members of the CHC will still back the final measure.

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1 posted on 03/11/2010 9:15:06 AM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

House dissident Rats to Obama, Pelosi, and and Reid: WE DON’T TRUST YOU!


2 posted on 03/11/2010 9:18:11 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

House dissident Rats to Obama, Pelosi, and and Reid: WE DON’T TRUST YOU!”

Exactly...welcome to OUR world, Rats.


3 posted on 03/11/2010 9:19:41 AM PST by jessduntno ("We need to pass ObamaCare so that the public can find out what's in the bill." - Nanny Pelosi)
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To: Sub-Driver

Hmmm I wish people would make up their minds. Some articles say they are good to go and then you have these that say they will never go. I wonder which it is?


4 posted on 03/11/2010 9:20:20 AM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Why are the dems so set on including abortion funding in this bill? If they removed that, they probably could get the votes to pass it.


5 posted on 03/11/2010 9:21:12 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Calm down..don’t you know it has to pass first before we can find out what’s in it we don’t like? What’s not to trust?? /MAJOR S


6 posted on 03/11/2010 9:21:59 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Why protest fur and not leather? Ever try to hassle a motorcycle gang?)
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To: Sub-Driver

If The Hill, a communist front rag, says this.... then they are in trouble.


7 posted on 03/11/2010 9:23:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (Seriously. The only way Obama can possibly pull this out is to declare Martial Law before November.)
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To: Sub-Driver
The Hill's list does not include members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, who are threatening to vote no unless changes are made to the bill's immigration-related provisions. Most on Capitol Hill believe that language will not be changed and that most members of the CHC will still back the final measure.

Such a principled stand. Stop discriminating against illegal immigrants! (unless you hand out some multi-million dollar goodies to my district, in which case I'll look the other way...)

8 posted on 03/11/2010 9:23:12 AM PST by scottinoc
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m not holding my breath. These weasels will continue to flip flop until the last second. Right now this posturing is much ado about nothing.


9 posted on 03/11/2010 9:24:27 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: jaydubya2
Why are the dems so set on including abortion funding in this bill? If they removed that, they probably could get the votes to pass it.

As I understand it, to even try to use reconcilliation to pass this bill, the House needs to pass the Senate bill unaltered. Since it's in the passed Senate bill, it has to stay.

10 posted on 03/11/2010 9:25:32 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Class! And particularly you, Mr. (Putative) President!
The key to doing well in this `Getting Bitch-slapped II’ course is to perfect the motion of the head from side-side.
Observe:
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/jowling-countdown/fb2977bbad7d7e229f33fb2977bbad7d7e229f33-1685062549616

Are you students adequately prepared to rock?
(ruckus)
Silence!


11 posted on 03/11/2010 9:25:37 AM PST by tumblindice (St. Louis protests 0. Better turn the hoses on the proles!)
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To: New Yawk Minute

You will know if the queen bee has the votes, you will be seeing it on c-span. Everything else is BS.


12 posted on 03/11/2010 9:25:41 AM PST by luv2ndamend (They call themselves greens because they're too yellow to admit they're reds.)
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13 posted on 03/11/2010 9:26:27 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: luv2ndamend

I agree with you. I think if they had the votes, they would be voting..not talking about it.


14 posted on 03/11/2010 9:26:57 AM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: Sub-Driver

We are in the last days of Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House...less than a year to go before she is returned to minority status.


15 posted on 03/11/2010 9:30:14 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: jaydubya2
"Why are the dems so set on including abortion funding in this bill? If they removed that, they probably could get the votes to pass it."

They can't change the abortion part of the bill, else it has to go back to the Senate where it will get fillibustered. The abortion part can't be changed in reconcilliation. The only way to change it is to somehow have a companion bill that is seperate that they pass and then vote on both bills. The health care bill would go to the Presidents desk to sign. The companion abortion bill would go to the Senate to be voted on. Then they have to trust that the Senate would pass that bill.
16 posted on 03/11/2010 9:31:26 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Lazamataz
...The Hill, a communist front rag...

For precisely that reason, you must consider this disinformation and ignore it.
Keep calling!

17 posted on 03/11/2010 9:32:38 AM PST by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: Lazamataz

Another way to see this is that the Communist rag is spreading misinformation to get constituents to stop calling...while Commie Pinko outfits like Families USA ring the phones off the hook...


18 posted on 03/11/2010 9:34:17 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: Sub-Driver

The Hill is another non-partison not, yeah sure this rag has Kos and Lanny Davis writing this crap....never ever trust w/o verification of any source and especially one that has 100% of their market in the DC-NY axis of evil.


19 posted on 03/11/2010 9:36:17 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Sub-Driver; ExTexasRedhead

PLEASE CALL! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE State District KEEP THE PRESSURE UP!

Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District

Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts


20 posted on 03/11/2010 9:37:24 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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