Reconciliation bill will be hard for GOP to derail

AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/9/10 | Alan Fram - ap

[NormsRevenge]

ObamaCare or Bust, Baby!!

[NormsRevenge]

Democratic party lawmakers (L-R) House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD), Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) confer during a bipartisan health reform summit with U.S. President Barack Obama and lawmakers at Blair House in Washington, February 25, 2010. REUTERS/Jason Reed

[NormsRevenge]

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (R) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (L) speak to the media outside of the West Wing of the White House, in Washington, DC, on February 25. President Barack Obama will muster the votes in the House of Representatives to force his flagship reform of US healthcare through without Republican support, Pelosi said Sunday. (AFP/File/Saul Loeb)

[South Dakota]

it will not matter much if the House passes the Senate bill.

We will all be screwed

[mentor2k]

If they can CREATE it with reconcillation, then can’t the dismantle it with reconcillation.

[Recovering_Democrat]

If EVERY Republican candidate ran on a signed pledge to abolish/defund/destroy/neuter Hussein-Care, they would win a supermajority in both houses.

[Cyber Liberty]

I don’t think there will be a “reconciliation bill.” I think everything stops the instant the House passes the Senate bill. Off it goes to Obama and “Bam,” it’ll be done.

[NormsRevenge]

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U.S. President Barack Obama delivers remarks on health insurance reform at Arcadia University in Glenside, Pennsylvania, March 8, 2010. REUTERS/Jim Young (UNITED STATES)

[aruanan]

There is no reconciliation bill. Once the House passes the Senate bill without modification, there is nothing to reconcile since nothing has been modified. Furthermore, since a revenue bill originated in the Senate, it’s unconstitutional. A rubberstamping of a Senate-originated bill by the House does not transform it into a House-originated bill. But these folks have long since ceased to give a flying fart about what’s constitutional.

[NormsRevenge]

Und you vill like it .. or ve vill take you off ze roll.

[Track9]

I know it’s somewhat of a moot point but wont this second bill (the one they’re calling the reconciliation package) have to go to the Senate to be voted on. A bill has to pass both houses before it can go to Boyman.

[NormsRevenge]

God Bless America..

(underbreath) - OH Yeah,, keep buying my bs.. you dumb slubs.

A Clear and Prese__nt Danger ?

[Track9]

The depressing thing is I believe Pinky kept the original House bill number on his bill so in their convoluted logic it actually ‘originated’ in the House.

[ncalburt]

Good old conmrade Alan from AP is trying to keep the
Phony Reconciliation SCAM Alive in the media cycle .

The only question I have is where did this faxed PR crap come from Pelosi , Reid, Axelrod , or Linda Douglas office ?

AP is just the official clearing house for Obama state media obama care propaganda /pr !

[mwl8787]

Can anyone imagine the MSM hysteria if the GOP even attempted to resort to such parlimentarian ledgerdemain and cheating to pass a bill restructing 20% of the nation’s economy? They’d be run out of town.

The bias is disgraceful. The whole idea of reconciliation as a means to an end should have been taken off the table with Scott Brown’s election.

The MSM stinks, and if this monstrosity passes, I hope that their employers, in a cost-cutting move, dump them all in a public plan on day one. Idiots.

When Reagan and Bush wanted to sell their tax cuts, they took their case to the American people. By contrast, the Democratic majority has to hide the people’s representatives in Washington because they know the American people detest this legislation. This arrogance is absolutely without parallel in American history.

Keep calling. 202-224-3121

[Lazamataz]

I actually don't see a ton of bias in the article, except for the line about how Republicans have used Reconciliation for big items too. Tax items, yes: Major revamps of the economy, hell no.

But on the whole it wasn't that bad an article.

[GailA]

This butthole supports funding of Planned Parenthood...the major performer of abortions in the USA.

“Code Red” - House Target List on Health Care
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
Rep. John S. Tanner 202-225-4714 Jackson office: 731-423-4848
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131

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On the Bubble (Major developments from the “yes” and “no” columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts

[GailA]

And Stupak is a FRAUD, he supports funding for Planned Parenthood..the performer of most abortions in the USA!

[RossA]

Let’s pretend we can play chess like a Grandmaster and think 3 moves ahead:

1. the House wants to pass the Senate Bill assuming the Senate will pass a “fix”.

2. Maybe the Senate will; maybe they won’t. Let’s assume they Rahm the “fix” through.

3. Now the House has to agree to the “fix.” Will they? Suppose the House Republicans pre-announced they won’t vote for the “fix.” (”a Pox on both your houses”). Then the original Senate bill becomes law. There are plenty of House ultra-liberals that would be happy with that (and plenty of republican candidates next Nov.).

4. back to step 1...why would the House vote for the Senate bill?

P.S. I lied about being a chess GrandMaster; I’m (only) an Expert.