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Five Myths about Same Sex Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | March 9, 2010 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 03/09/2010 12:18:39 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: ketsu

No way a homosexual couple can raise children right. Kids learn by example. Same sex couples are teaching the kids with their sick lifestyles that sodomy is OK.


61 posted on 03/09/2010 1:35:14 PM PST by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: ketsu

Any “parent” who engages in a homosexual relationship when they have a child to raise is being selfish. A single parent who puts off their sex life to raise their child(ren) is a much better parent.


62 posted on 03/09/2010 1:35:52 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: metmom
The problem is, by insisting that the government not define marriage, it IS defining marriage. What people don’t want is that the government define marriage as between one man and one woman at a time. So they insist that the government not define it, which means that the government by default DOES define it as anything goes.
Marriage is a dead institution. With divorce and serial marriage, marriage is no longer marriage, it's a cohabiting agreement.

The real key to this is to define a sane form of cohabitation and leave marriage to religious people who actually want to respect the institution.

63 posted on 03/09/2010 1:36:05 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu
I just know what I've seen in the real world, living in the city.

Anecdotal and not backed by research.

However all the homosexual parents I've known have been *much* better than the single parents I've known.

Again. You are trying to confuse the issue by adding something that is NOT the subject at hand. We are discussing deviant behaviour of homosexuals and their agenda.

64 posted on 03/09/2010 1:38:14 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ketsu; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; scripter; DirtyHarryY2K; metmom; xzins; P-Marlowe; BykrBayb
However all the homosexual parents I've known have been *much* better than the single parents I've known.

How many of each have you known?

What is your criteria based on?

I don't disagree that homosexuals are very adept at portraying themselves a certain way in public, this has nothing to do with what goes on in private.

Finally, what does this have to do with marriage? Nobody is suggesting that homosexuals aren't free to have children, in fact nobody is saying that they can't get married, what we are talking about is that homosexuals shouldn't get some special provisions that the rest of us don't have.

65 posted on 03/09/2010 1:38:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Plenty of restrictions normal people have to put up with.”

I got a chuckle out of this. I know it isn’t what you mean but this sentence sounds like you are annoyed at those restrictions. :)


66 posted on 03/09/2010 1:38:56 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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To: liberalism is suicide
No way a homosexual couple can raise children right. Kids learn by example. Same sex couples are teaching the kids with their sick lifestyles that sodomy is OK.
How many homosexual parents have you known?
67 posted on 03/09/2010 1:38:57 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: BykrBayb
Any “parent” who engages in a homosexual relationship when they have a child to raise is being selfish. A single parent who puts off their sex life to raise their child(ren) is a much better parent.
Tell that to the lost generation in any American inner-city.
68 posted on 03/09/2010 1:40:57 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu; liberalism is suicide; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; scripter; DirtyHarryY2K; metmom; xzins; ..
How many homosexual parents have you known?

What does that have to do with ANYTHING?

Has anyone suggested that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to have children?

Has anyone suggested that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry?

69 posted on 03/09/2010 1:41:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ketsu; metmom
Marriage is a dead institution.

Is that why deviants are fighting for gay marriage to be recognized? Because it's dead?

Weak argument. What you want is to water down morality so the slugs are comfy. No deal.

70 posted on 03/09/2010 1:41:55 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ketsu; BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; scripter; DirtyHarryY2K; metmom; xzins; P-Marlowe
Tell that to the lost generation in any American inner-city.

So, you think the problems of the inner cities would be solved if more of the gang bangers were homosexuals?

71 posted on 03/09/2010 1:42:32 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ketsu
It works both ways. Now I can turn around and ask you, why *shouldn't* gay couples be allowed to be parents? If you say no, then I can call you a nanny stater etc...

Fine. Call me a nanny stater. NO! Homosexual couples should not be allowed to adopt. There is nothing stopping them from being parents should they decide to someone arrange procreation on their own, but that's a whole 'nother issue.

The issue is far more complicated than what passes for modern conservatism gives it credit for and boils down to "how do you create a real, wholesome society in a world where the conventional rules don't work anymore?"

No, it doesn't, because that just smoke and mirrors to cover up the social decay that is brought about by the dissolution of moral values.

You CANNOT have a wholesome society without conventional rules. It's the conventional rules which make society wholesome.

You are seriously on the wrong forum. Here, this one would suit you much better.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/

72 posted on 03/09/2010 1:42:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee

I don’t know how that follows the argument,
but it’s funny...


73 posted on 03/09/2010 1:43:14 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Kaslin
Society opens the floodgates of cultural destruction if marriage becomes meaningless.

Easy divorce laws have already done that. Marriage has gone from a lifetime commitment to a temporary union that lasts only until something better comes along. And when that time comes then the interests of the children are pretty much tossed out with the rest of the marriage. So I'm sorry, you can't blame same-sex couples for trivializing marriage and making it meaningless. That happened a long time ago.

74 posted on 03/09/2010 1:43:22 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: ketsu

Tell that to the victims of your homosexual promoting lifestyle. Children have a natural born right to be cared for, and not pushed aside in pursuit of deviant sex. It’s not possible to love a child, and at the same time put your sex life ahead of them.


75 posted on 03/09/2010 1:43:44 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: metmom

What you’re seeing is the difference between a conservative, one that understands the basis of a stable society,

and an anything goes libertarian.


76 posted on 03/09/2010 1:44:10 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: wagglebee

LOL!! Purple and pink gang colors?!


77 posted on 03/09/2010 1:44:14 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ketsu; DJ MacWoW; 50mm; darkwing104
Most "deviants" I know are far better parents than their many times divorced, selfish and irresponsible single parent brethren. It's not nearly that simple.

Sources? Statistics?

You are making a lot of baseless claims and nobody is taking your opinion of it as fact.

78 posted on 03/09/2010 1:44:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wagglebee
How many of each have you known?

What is your criteria based on?

I don't disagree that homosexuals are very adept at portraying themselves a certain way in public, this has nothing to do with what goes on in private.

Finally, what does this have to do with marriage? Nobody is suggesting that homosexuals aren't free to have children, in fact nobody is saying that they can't get married, what we are talking about is that homosexuals shouldn't get some special provisions that the rest of us don't have.

I've known three stable, gay (male) families raising children(adopted from the inner city, which made for interesting confusion when the two daddies were out with their kids).

Single parents? More than I want to think of.

The issue is not marriage. The issue is making the issue about marriage. The problem is not marriage, it's marriage's abject failure as an institution.

79 posted on 03/09/2010 1:44:51 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

No, I’m just pointing out that it’s not like normal people can marry whoever they want, or do anything they want when it comes to marriage. Others normal people (heteros) have argued to marry younger people, family members, multiple spouses, citing ‘fairness’, ‘love’ ,etc and we haven’t budged for them. No way we’re going to for perverts.

:)


80 posted on 03/09/2010 1:45:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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