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Should Christians Use Saul Alinsky’s Tactics in Exposing Corruption?
Townhall.com ^ | March 7, 2010 | Doug Giles

Posted on 03/07/2010 12:28:44 PM PST by Kaslin

A Christian pundit, Dawn Eden, thinks my daughter Hannah Giles and her partner James O’Keefe should not have used Saul Alinsky’s deceptive tactics against ACORN because Saul was “evil,” his methods sneaky, and he dedicated his book, Rules for Radicals, to Lucifer.

In addition, Eden took a swipe at Lila Rose, Planned Parenthood’s main pain in the butt, for being deceptive in her undercover vids which exposed Planned Parenthood’s illegal activity. Oh, and I almost forgot: Dawn also busted on Hannah for being un-Christlike for wearing a miniskirt and dressing like a hooker. Sounds a little catty to me—and a wee bit like Dana Carvey’s Church Lady—but I digress.

First off, Ms. Eden, if you ever drum up the nerve to expose a scandalous multimillion dollar Obama-backed, taxpayer-funded organization for doing illegal crap and then undergo death threats (versus sitting on the sidelines and simply critiquing those who have the cojones to do so) you will find that the lawbreakers are rather reticent in telling journalists, who are intent on exposing and destroying their world, exactly how they’re breaking the law. Yeah, I know. It’s weird, eh?

You’d think that nefarious organizations would just spill their guts, throw up their hands, give up their hard drives, refrain from dumping tens of thousands of documents in a dumpster, and just cooperate to the fullest extent with the FBI and the DOJ, but alas, they don’t because they’re criminals, and criminals, generally speaking, aren’t known for truthfulness, contrition and full disclosure with cops.

Therefore, most of the time when journalists, Christian or not, want to get the 411 on a reprehensible group, they usually have to fly under the radar, you know, by being misleading, going stealth, acting like serpents, slithering in and getting the apple in front of the culprit and seeing if they’ll take the bait. Deception is a given in the truth seeker’s toolbox when it comes to dealing with slippery critters who won’t easily spill the beans. It’s called hunting. Haven’t you ever watched a Jason Bourne movie, seen Barney Fife in action, or read Joshua or Judges? Geez, Dawn. Come to speed, why don’t cha?

For frail Dawn, the deceptive tactics Giles, O’Keefe and Rose employed in exposing crappy cabals like ACORN and Planned Parenthood present a pious conundrum because she sees deceit, in all forms, as evil; according to her read of the Bible, sweet Jesus would never give the thumbs-up to a believer to participate in that kind of devilish activity.

No, for Dawn, we must pray, be more “mature,” take the high road, wait a million years, come through the front door with a press pass around our neck, and tell the twisted that the USA and Jesus would really appreciate it if ACORN and Planned Parenthood would confess their sins, close down their operations, and become a Ben & Jerry’s.

Here’s my take on whether or not Jesus and the Bible are cool with deceit for righteous purposes. First off, when I’m talking about Jesus, I’m talking about the one in the Bible who methodically made a whip and beat the religious hucksters out of the temple (that’s not very Christlike, eh Dawn?), purposely picked fights with sanctimonious toads and political pukes, and instructed his disciples to be “shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves” (Mt. 10:16). Or, as my King Doug Contra Mundus Translation interprets the original Greek text, “be as clever as the Devil.” Yep, good old Jesus said it’s okay to imitate the serpent in regard to cleverness; just be righteous in spirit and desired goals.

From what I know from my own serious Christian kid and O’Keefe (as well as Rose, via several interviews with her), their motivations were pure in that they wanted to sink these two sucky organizations—organizations, mind you, that are on tape aiding and abetting underage prostitution, home loans for multiple whorehouses, money laundering, tax fraud, millions of abortions, and not just any old abortions but abortions for underage girls (without their parents’ knowledge or consent) who have been the victims of statutory rape.

The reason I believe Jesus wouldn’t give a flip about these three heroes’ mad methods but would instead applaud their efforts is because the Scripture doesn’t condemn:

• Rahab, a real whore, for her sleight of hand with the Canaanites • Gideon’s pretense with his small army • Abraham’s lie regarding his wife • King David’s feigned madness before King Achish.

Real life is war, sweetie pie, and I hate to burst your smug balloon, my dear Dawn, but sometimes playing dirty for noble reasons is the right thing to do.

With Eden’s edict banning deception, it follows that Christian cops couldn’t do their fabulous undercover work; Christian soldiers couldn’t wear deceptive camo or take on local dress in order to whack the Taliban; Christian CIA ops would have to wear dove and fish T-Shirts instead of their Simon Templar garb; and the amazing Christians who lied to the murderous Nazis would all be uniformly condemned for fibbing about the whereabouts of precious Jews they were hiding.

Lastly, Dawn, at the end of the day, I believe Hannah, James and Lila will get mad applause in heaven as they are here on earth for exposing ACORN and Planned Parenthood’s hellish practices. I know, as a Christian, I prefer their ways of doing things to your way of not doing them. Amen.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: acorn; giles; hannahgiles; jamesokeefe; military; notaboutthemilitary; obama; plannedparenthood; saulalinsky
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

They get away with it because not enough of us scream “You Lie” back at them. We expect them to play by our rules , this they will never do. Until we stand up and throw it back in their faces it will continue.... we need to shame them


81 posted on 03/07/2010 10:16:10 PM PST by Lera
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

“but I never thought that CNN itself would fabricate the news, and imply a reality that’s just not true.”

They have a history of doing exactly that. Have you never heard of what CNN did with the “Operation Tailwind” fabrication they produced back in the late ‘90s?


82 posted on 03/07/2010 11:28:54 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Grizzled Bear
I was so happy to see your quote about judging Angles. I've found that not very many Christians are aware of that verse. I once heard someone say to another person that we are not to judge others. The person came back with, “why? don't you know that someday we will judge Angels”. I'm sure the other guy went straight home to look it up. LOL
83 posted on 03/08/2010 12:24:46 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: Kaslin

Look, she's wearing 'faux' animal print. Isn't that a bit deceptive? Does her clothing choice make her a liar? According to her own arguments, yes--I believe so.
84 posted on 03/08/2010 5:09:32 AM PST by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: married21
Giles and O’Keefe aren’t doing that exactly, though. They do not exactly have the moral stature of Jesus, and may be tempted to use their stunts more for attention than for moral correction. Personally, I am pondering whether they are more like papparazzi from the tabloids, with an unusual target, or whether they are wiser/of better character than that.

An interesting question but irrelevant in my view. They threw a wrench in the spokes of some who intended to do me wrong. I applaud them and wish them well, even if their motives aren't solely altruistic. Many people their age are either completely lazy and apathetic or exert whatever energies they have to destroying things that are good.

85 posted on 03/08/2010 9:17:30 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rdb3

But they didn’t actually do anything bad to the ACORN people (unless you count lying, as the original blogger did). What they really did was to allow the people to do something bad to themselves with more exposure than the people thought they were going to get.

What about David lying about being crazy? Sarah lying about being Abraham’s wife? Rahab concealing the fact that she knew where the Israelite spies were?


86 posted on 03/08/2010 9:26:23 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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