Posted on 03/06/2010 10:46:10 AM PST by vrwc1
HOLLISTER, Calif. (AP) The man who opened fire in front of the Pentagon had a history of mental illness and had become so erratic that his parents reached out to local authorities weeks ago with a warning that he was unstable and might have a gun, authorities said Friday.
It's still unclear why John Patrick Bedell opened fire Thursday at the Pentagon entrance, wounding two police officers before he was fatally shot. The two officers were hospitalized briefly with minor injuries.
Bedell was diagnosed as bipolar, or manic depressive, and had been in and out of treatment programs for years. His psychiatrist, J. Michael Nelson, said Bedell tried to self-medicate with marijuana, inadvertently making his symptoms more pronounced.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
And just when the Supreme court is trying to decide what the meaning of “bear” is.
“...had a history of mental illness.”
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Is that how they describe democrats these days? Makes sense to me.
I’m not going to argue the relative social value of drug abusers, but rather that it is difficult to separate cause and effect from the mental illness, drug abuse social misfit triangle.
It is indeed easier to extend sympathy and prayers when not at the cost of innocence. I hear what you’re saying.
Still at it eh?
Corelation is not causality...
Voilent criminals smoke pot...
Therefore people who smoke pot are voilent criminals....
Epic logic fail.
Makes about as much sence as ..
Voilent criminal drives toyota...
Therefore toyota drivers are voilent crminals....
EPIC LOGIC FAIL.
ABC’s Bill Weir, who reminds me of homosexual figural skater Johnny Weir, claims that Bedell was a conservative right-wing extremist.
Lying lame-stream media pond scum.
Let’s see, “self-medicate” with marijuana, isn’t that like an alcoholic “self-medicating” with a fifth of Jim Beam? Or maybe a gallon of Vin Rose’?? (Thats an accent after the “e” for the elitists among us...)
Absolutely true. Several peer reviewed medical trials have shown that marijuana use, regular use over time can initiated genetic triggers for schizophrenia and other diagnostic cagegories in mental illness. In a similar fashion that diabetes can be accelerated by high carb/sugar intake to increase resistance to insulin- genetically marked. There are some people who do not have the genetic markers for this response to marijuana, but most people do. The receptor mediated response becomes both psychologically and physiologically addictive. Biochemically pot is needed to maintain the effect—and for someone to develop tolerance, hence needing more pot. Articles have also missed that pot smoke is highly carcinogenic— but maybe that’s nothing compared to death by Oreo cookies.
Saw and heard twice on the same segment.
" Anti-government extremist".
I did not hear a mention of his politically established party support.
Wrongo. Multiple documented medical trials in brain chemistry, peer reviewed, and basis for statement that pot is a gateway drug. Alcohol isn’t very good for you either, long term and accentuates depression and suicidal mental illness, not to mention immune and nutritional deficiency and cardiomyopathy. Very self serving pot heads try to dispel high quality medical research. Neither agent is good for you, and guess what driving a car or flying in an airliner and a host of other things (like butter fat)aren’t either. But this does not good to a committed pot head or California legislator/revenue seeker from Mendocino County.
You’re right. If he had been from the right, mental illness would NEVER be offered as an excuse.
Spelling alert. “initiate” “categories”
These studies by the way, are not “Reefer Madness” government trials. They were done in conjunction with THC trials and private health foundation money.
Though mentally ill people - with prior records were flagged when making gun purchase. . .NO? Just in some States?
“Wrongo. Multiple documented medical trials in brain chemistry, peer reviewed, and basis for statement that pot is a gateway drug.”
yeah yeah...I’ve seen well documented, peer reviewed studies that proclaim Man is the cause for global warming...
” Alcohol isnt very good for you either, long term and accentuates depression and suicidal mental illness, not to mention immune and nutritional deficiency and cardiomyopathy.”
Yet it is legal...it also caused Organ damage...forgot that one...
” Very self serving pot heads try to dispel high quality medical research.”
Dispel?...no I flat out scoff at it...
If that were true...there are MILLIONS of crazys running around shooting up the pentagon...
” Neither agent is good for you, and guess what driving a car or flying in an airliner and a host of other things (like butter fat)arent either. But this does not good to a committed pot head or California legislator/revenue seeker from Mendocino County.”
No, what it is ,not “looks like”, is an attempt to blame clearly insane actions upon a substance that millions use daily without going insane...
Pot has as much connection to his actions as the kind of pants he wore...
His actions where based upon years of being a 9/11 truther and having those thoughts reinforced by other crazies on the net...and there are plenty of 9/11 truthers who dont smoke pot...
This is no differnt than people blaiming twinkies for the Hinckley attack on Reagan...
Sure twinkie haters will believe it...other people with logical minds will seek the true source of his motivations...
See...it has to be ANYTHING other than simple ideology and sence of purpose.....no it has to be some other influence....oh I know...he was just a crazy pot smoker...yeah that’s it...
Meh.
YA liberalism. Number 1 mental illness in our country.
Damn. It’s no fun when the person who creates the thread makes the most appropriate statement right off bat.
Thanks for the info. Death by Oreo cookies, huh? Wait, I have come close to that before and I don’t smoke weed.
Been around potheads my whole life, and your arguments are living proof of the effects. Too facile, my friend. And the pharmacologic trials I am speaking of are not govt. sponsored or “shadow govt.” sponsored. A chemical effect is a chemical effect. Genetic knowledge has surpassed the 60’s arguments you attempt to make. That said, the MSM has not properly characterized this nutcase as a child of the 60’s who had been busted for pot and other run ins and was bipolar and/or schizophrenic (they are not the same). It is quite self serving to try to say that “millions use daily and are not insane”. That is not what I pointed out. Sure, they’re not insane they just don’t have the same mental faculties as non pot smokers. If you don’t observe that than you are using too much of your crop. Bye.
Yes, alcohol is indeed legal, and what is also legal is that we as a society do not have to pay for a replacement liver or heart in a chronic drunk. Neither, if pot were legalized should we have to pay for rehab and to try to re-wire the screwed up neurons and electron transport systems of stonies. There have NEVER been any properly peer reviewed studies proving anthropogenic global warming... you are wrong, and that is precisely why the entire scam has been exposed. What I see in the “pot is perfectly safe” crowd is self serving cash producing rhetoric. And I have been to warehouses full of the stuff waiting to be put on the market by RJ Reynolds. I don’t want my pilot stoned or drunk or both, period. And this pre-wired bipolar aggravated his condition through self medication with pot— and it still does not excuse his actions. Legal or otherwise the biochemical effect on an individual is well documented.
“I dont want my pilot stoned or drunk or both, period”
While I fully agree with this statement...I really dont care about the guy at the video store or the 7-11....(just as an example)...
As a fellow conservative I’m going to just respectfully disagree and ask that we instead concentrate on other things we are in full agree of perhaps...
Lets argue after the midterms...
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