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The Strategy Page ^ | 03/05/2010 | The Strategy Page

Posted on 03/05/2010 8:54:45 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The U.S. Navy has now received 2000 of the new Tomahawk (BGM-109) Block 4 missiles, since production began five years ago. The Block 4s cost about $1.7 million each. The missile weighs 1.4 tons, has a range of 1,500 kilometers and carries a half ton warhead. It moves to its target at a speed of 880 kilometers an hour. The original Tomahawk was introduced 26 years ago, and nearly 7,000 have been manufactured. The U.S. Navy has fired nearly 2,000 in combat and training. The Block 4s are also getting upgraded so that they can hit moving targets. This is mainly intended to turn the Tomahawk into an anti-ship missile, although it can also hit moving land targets. The Tomahawk has been a primary land attack weapon for surface ships and submarines since the 1990s. The Block 3 entered service in 1994, but the Block 4 was a big upgrade, adding GPS and the ability to go after a different target while the missile was in flight.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: antishipmissile; bgm109; cruisemissile; submarines; surfaceforces; tomahawk; tslam; usmilitary; usnavy
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To: glorgau

“1.7 million ea. Launch a mansion to take out a target.”

With proper warhead, we need only one - target Mecca.


21 posted on 03/05/2010 10:38:48 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

And Tehran


22 posted on 03/05/2010 10:40:17 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: daniel1212

Everything is networked. Above and maybe forward of the ships are surveillance platforms, aircraft, satellites with radar, that watch the air space. Ships, fleets, air defenses are designed for multiple incoming targets.

But before a ship is targeted, it has too be seen, over the horizon, by an enemy platform emitting radar. Existing fixed radar sites will first be destroyed. Then any departing enemy ship or aircraft will be destroyed. So then, more or less, the enemy is blind, doesn’t know who is out there, how many or where.

All that aside, again a launch, multiple launches are detected ( and site launch remembered if not quickly counter attacked ) then there is distant interceptions at a hundred miles out, intermediate and then close with guns, radar chaff, electronic jamming and decoys. The ship’s radar, jamming, electronics, chaff are way bigger, more sophisticated than carried on a missile. In short you have a simple, kind of dumb missile vs a smart ship.

Lastly, you might not stop them, so you get hit.


23 posted on 03/06/2010 1:30:32 AM PST by Leisler (What 'free market', where is it?)
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To: AussieJoe

If they did so by missiles the resultant debris would wreak havoc with anything in lower orbits, thus lasers are the more likely choice.

As for Australia, that would seem a likely target in Empire building, which an financial meltdown of the U.S. could make more attractive to the Chinese. Communism by nature is insecure, and has little or no tolerance for loyalty to anything higher than it, or independence from it, and so it needs to keep expanding its power, and it seems you are quite vulnerable.

Ought to make a people seek the Lord,


24 posted on 03/06/2010 5:39:24 AM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: Leisler; sonofstrangelove
Thanks for the responses.

But before a ship is targeted, it has too be seen, over the horizon, by an enemy platform emitting radar.

But soon they could they not have a satellite network, or over the horizon radar?

The ship’s radar, jamming, electronics, chaff are way bigger, more sophisticated than carried on a missile.

But maybe they would use an EMP device?

25 posted on 03/06/2010 5:44:30 AM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: sonofstrangelove

Ok, so we need two special warheads...


26 posted on 03/06/2010 5:55:49 AM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: daniel1212
"So how would a ship protect itself in a Persian Gulf type situation, with multiple missile attack...?"

The last line of defense would be the Phalanx. A number of these from surface ships would, (in theory) throw up a radar guided hail of projectiles that would shred an incoming missile(s).

27 posted on 03/06/2010 6:10:11 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Well, hope such works against a lot of missiles, before they get exhausted of ammo. This type of warfare is why the militarization of space may get pushed. Phaser banks 2 and 3 Mr. Zulu.


28 posted on 03/06/2010 9:17:12 AM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: daniel1212

“As for Australia, that would seem a likely target in Empire building, which an financial meltdown of the U.S. could make more attractive to the Chinese.”
China is our biggest export client and has already thrown a tantrum because we didn’t permit them to buy our biggest iron ore company. There’s no doubt whatsoever they have their eye on us, and being an ally or the US is all that’s keeping them at bay.

“Ought to make a people seek the Lord,”
...when it comes to China I’d rather seek a nuclear arsenal.


29 posted on 03/06/2010 2:54:00 PM PST by AussieJoe
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To: AussieJoe
There’s no doubt whatsoever they have their eye on us,

Thanks for the confirmation.

"Ought to make a people seek the Lord,”

I....when it comes to China I’d rather seek a nuclear arsenal.

The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive for a nation, but the preeminence of the Lord recognizes that ultimately all the armaments in the world will not help if one places their chief trust in them, rather than an omnipotent creature. And as the Bible promotes a right view of man, that contrary to the ethos of liberals, they are prone to sin by nature, and thus moral laws, and discipline of children and even wars are sometimes necessary, then the more a nation is influenced by the Bible then they will usually support a strong national defense as needed, as is evidenced overall in the U.S.

Of course, rightly understood, then would also recognize that it is not within the charter of the church to use the sword of men, but to support the just use of it by the powers that be. (Rm. 13:1-5; 1Cor. 5:12,13; 2Cor. 6:1-10; 10:4-6; 1Pet. 2:13,14)

30 posted on 03/06/2010 3:57:14 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: daniel1212

China has deployed an Over-the-Horizon Backscatter Radar [OTH-B] to provide surveillance of the South China Sea. The precise location of this facility remains unclear. China began development of HF ground wave OTH sensors in November 1967.

http://nipp.org/National%20Institute%20Press/Current%20Publications/PDF/EMP%20Paper%20Final%20November07.pdf


31 posted on 03/06/2010 8:16:15 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: daniel1212
I believe that most mil electronics are shielded. Further, there is not/little example of emps working in the field. So, it would be a huge risk.
32 posted on 03/07/2010 2:39:03 PM PST by Leisler (What 'free market', where is it?)
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To: Leisler; sonofstrangelove

Thanks.

But does the Russian ambassador have a camera, strangelove?


33 posted on 03/07/2010 5:05:16 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: daniel1212

The Big Board.


34 posted on 03/07/2010 5:24:00 PM PST by Leisler (What 'free market', where is it?)
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To: Leisler

“Black humor” defined.


35 posted on 03/07/2010 6:05:05 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: daniel1212

Actually he does. Its the camera


36 posted on 03/07/2010 7:28:00 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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