Posted on 03/04/2010 1:27:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yesterday they needed 216 to pass it, now they need 217. Like Ace says: Nomentum.
U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal will delay his resignation from Congress by three weeks, citing intense pressure from House Republican leaders to remain and vote against President Barack Obama’s plan to overhaul the nation’s health care system…
News of Deal’s decision was inadvertently broken by U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, who congratulated Deal on his decision.
On Monday, before 100 supporters at the Gainesville Civic Center, Deal said he would leave Congress, effective March 8, in order to devote all his time to his campaign for governor.
Obama could in theory push the vote back into April or May to wait Deal out and force him to resign before the bill comes to the floor, but after Gibbs set a deadline of March 18 for passage this morning, he’ll look like an even weaker chump than usual if he does that.
A quick Democratic head count: Shelley Berkley, who voted yes in November, is a likely no this time. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin and Frank Kratovil — who was named in that dopey AP piece a few days ago as a possible flip to yes — voted no last time and say they’re voting that way again. The only way to flip all three? The Senate has to pass Obama’s “fix” to Reid’s Senate bill before the House votes on anything. If they do it the other way, with the House passing Reid’s bill first, there’s a chance that reconciliation could collapse in the Senate, leaving the House stuck with the Reid bill they pretty much all hate (albeit for different reasons).
Geraghty’s been doing yeoman’s work trying to figure out precisely what has to happen for Pelosi to get to 217. According to his latest calculation, every last pro-life Democrat who’s threatening to vote no with Stupak this time would have to flip to yes; if even one of them votes no — which seems exceedingly likely — it’s all over. And that assumes that House progressives will fall in line and stick with their yes votes from November. By no means is that a sure thing; remember, Raul Grijalva says he’s “pretty certain” that several liberals are ready to walk away this time. In fact, Roll Call claims they were pestering The One at last night’s White House health-care huddle about possibly reviving, er, the public option. Good luck with that, champ. The long and short of it is, unless I’ve missed a story somewhere, not a single Democrat who voted no before has committed to flipping to yes this time. The momentum is entirely the other way.
...not to mention the endless phone calls he was getting from FReepers and Tea Partiers all over America. Way to go FReepers!
Yep
But in your scenario, the Senate would need 60 to pass this new “fixer” bill.
Call him and thank him. Thank the leaders who have convinced him to as well.
They may be stuck voting for the language and it might be the law, but it doesn't mean anyone must enforce those provisions. We need to of course kill this in the cradle.
“Helpful, but Obama is obsessed and will eventually have it postponed if he needs to.
Everyone knows he’s a extreme leftist bone head”
Obsessed leftit bonehead.... hmmm, is that the Hope and Change America elected in Nov 2008?
“Why does this guy even have to resign at all?”
I agree. I dont get it. He could simply decline to run for re-election, show up only for the critical votes ad spend the rest of the time in Georgia.
He is doing the opposite of what KBH decided to do.
So, basically, we need to start talking up how inexperienced bimbo is on rules of Congress. His lack of experience is causing him to make GRAVE errors in everything he says. Hmmmm, like you said, time for Fox and a few others to talk this up big time.
“You can’t call it up twice. Once defeated it is dead”
That’s exactly the point. THERE IS NO REASON to make Reps walk the plank unless they win the prize. They ALREADY got burned on several big votes for cap-n-trade and obamacare.
Note that Pelosi is a liar and an idiot. She expresses confidence in passing but doesnt have the votes - period. She could pass the bill tomorrow with enough Dem votes ... but she blames Republicans:
“Pelosi voiced confidence that Democrats will prevail over what she said was Republican obstructionism and win passage of landmark legislation that Obama will sign into law.
“What has happened in the last year, in the past year, in the United States Senate is a total obstruction by the Republican senators,” Pelosi said.”
“There is the real risk that post the November elections you will have a lot of lame duck Dems who would have voted NO but will give one for the team on their way out and vote YES and Obamacare will pass sometime in late November or early December. If Pelosi votes now and loses she will not have the opportunity to test that idea out.”
Now THERE’s a possible scenario I have not heard yet. Of course, the incoming Repub House can simply defund the whole thing.
Gibbs works for a MUSLIM RADICAL TERRORIST who dispises Christians and their Christian Holidays! Therefore, expect the Healthcare Bill Vote to be scheduled for 9:00 A.M on Easter Sunday......and this is not meant as sarquasm.
No. I'm assuming that they will try to do this via the reconciliation process. I don't think they can pull it off but I think they will have to try. Pelosi is bleeding votes in the House based on today's news reports so they are going to have to conjure up some sort of "promise" to the House that their required changes to the bill will indeed be made. This can only be done by some sort of advanced reconciliation bill that the Senate can vote on. I don't think the members of the House are going to accept any kind of verbal promise on this issue. In fact, some Congressmen have stated that they are voting NO and they will not change their vote based on any sort of 51 vote Senate Plan. This thing is falling apart for the Dems.
Senator Barry Soetoro,(aka: Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.;aka,aka,aka,etc.) did NOT resign his darn Senatorship until after he was Elected!, but then he clearly has No Ethics, No Morals, and was doing Nothing in the Senate since he had been elected. He did find time to try to get his “Cousin” elected President of Kenya, trying to underhandedly force Kenya to convert to 100% MUSLIM,to convert Kenya to 100% Muslim Shria Law even tho Kenya was then less than 5% Muslim, and at least silently approving of his “Cousin’s” Leading of Fatal Riots and the burning of Christian Churchs and their Congregants alive after his Electoral Defeat. But I guess these are all coincidences that barry had no knowledge of and would NEVER had approved of if he knew about this horrible stuff. You have to believe OBOZO is Dumber than a Rock to believe he knew nothing about all of that........:-)
Planned all along. Now he gets undeserved attaboys.
Thanks Ernest.
OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
PLEASE ASK THEM TO REPEAL THE BIG NEW FEES in TRICARE for Life, the retired Military over 65 secondary health ins. which they passed in a DOD bill. They promised our Military these benefits, and our Military have earned them.
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security, http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460988/posts
Obama: No reduced Medicare benefits in health care reform
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/28/obama.health.care/index.html
Will healthcare reform mean cuts in Medicare for seniors?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1017/will-healthcare-reform-mean-cuts-in-medicare-for-seniors
Health Reform’s Hidden Victims Young people and seniors would pay a high price for ObamaCare.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574306303720472842.html
SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2463709/posts
MILITARY & Retired MILITARY
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
we should send him a thank you
Think Deal now should get our full support in his run for Governor.
If he votes against Obozocare, we'll "HALE" the Deal.
That is the ONLY thing I would write on ANY fax to ANY Democrat lawmaker and RINOs these days.
They will know EXACTLY what you are talking about.
Publish their home addresses in the district, for lawn-sit ins if necessary. I mean, wneed to consider now going totally Birmingham Walgreens Counter Service 1964 on this.
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