Posted on 03/04/2010 1:27:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yesterday they needed 216 to pass it, now they need 217. Like Ace says: Nomentum.
U.S. Rep. Nathan Deal will delay his resignation from Congress by three weeks, citing intense pressure from House Republican leaders to remain and vote against President Barack Obamas plan to overhaul the nations health care system
News of Deals decision was inadvertently broken by U.S. Rep. Phil Gingrey, who congratulated Deal on his decision.
On Monday, before 100 supporters at the Gainesville Civic Center, Deal said he would leave Congress, effective March 8, in order to devote all his time to his campaign for governor.
Obama could in theory push the vote back into April or May to wait Deal out and force him to resign before the bill comes to the floor, but after Gibbs set a deadline of March 18 for passage this morning, hell look like an even weaker chump than usual if he does that.
A quick Democratic head count: Shelley Berkley, who voted yes in November, is a likely no this time. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin and Frank Kratovil who was named in that dopey AP piece a few days ago as a possible flip to yes voted no last time and say theyre voting that way again. The only way to flip all three? The Senate has to pass Obamas fix to Reids Senate bill before the House votes on anything. If they do it the other way, with the House passing Reids bill first, theres a chance that reconciliation could collapse in the Senate, leaving the House stuck with the Reid bill they pretty much all hate (albeit for different reasons).
Geraghtys been doing yeomans work trying to figure out precisely what has to happen for Pelosi to get to 217. According to his latest calculation, every last pro-life Democrat whos threatening to vote no with Stupak this time would have to flip to yes; if even one of them votes no which seems exceedingly likely its all over. And that assumes that House progressives will fall in line and stick with their yes votes from November. By no means is that a sure thing; remember, Raul Grijalva says hes pretty certain that several liberals are ready to walk away this time. In fact, Roll Call claims they were pestering The One at last nights White House health-care huddle about possibly reviving, er, the public option. Good luck with that, champ. The long and short of it is, unless Ive missed a story somewhere, not a single Democrat who voted no before has committed to flipping to yes this time. The momentum is entirely the other way.
That’s the question..but, IMJHO, it has to come for a vote..if she doesn’t bring it to the floor for a vote..the left/netroots base will go apes**t..
bttt
“I think he hurt Joe Frazier. I think Joe is hurt...Angie Dundee, Ali’s trainer right next to me is saying it, you may hear him—DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!”
Jay is getting nervous...
In the next few weeks if not the next few days I expect the idea that the Senate will pass a Reconciliation Bill prior to a House vote on the Senate version of ObamaCare will rise steadily to the forefront of discussions.
The reason why: It is the Dems ONLY SOLUTION. And it is, very likely ILLEGAL. If not illegal it is certainly in violation of the Senate rules which require that the use of the reconciliation process is only allowed to make certain types of modifications to EXISTING LAW. Until the House passes the bill and Obama signs it there is no LAW. So the Dems can't put the buggy in front of the horse. But of course they will try. It is the only choice they have left.
So get out the popcorn and start watching for the Dems to begin explaining why what I wrote above is not really true in this case. You read it here first. You will soon be reading about it in the WSJ and listening to discussions about it on Fox News.
“The only way to flip all three? The Senate has to pass Obamas fix to Reids Senate bill before the House votes on anything.”
Excellent point. Voting for the full bill at first means the Senate could just IGNORE reconciliation and send it off to Obama.
Why? When both houses vote on the same bill, it’s past. It’s over.
The only reason for the talk of reconciliation is the ‘promise’ to to it.
But, if you don’t pass the “fix” first....that’s nothing but empty words.
And while the fix is better (tons better), it has a lot of problems and still is basically Obama ramming his lefty agenda through...
He won’t get my vote anyway. Oxendine all the way, baby.
Rematch with Andy Harris?
We will never know. If Pelosi can't pass it she will not call for a vote.
I caught him on Greta last night..sounded like he was going to vote against it..was his race close last time?
Yep.
see my #21
LOL
“Obama could in theory push the vote back into April or May to wait Deal out and force him to resign before the bill comes to the floor...”
Oh please do, Zero. In fact wait until October and ask Congress to do nothing else until then. This would be such a nice October Surprise for voters.
They have to get it done in the next few weeks because the reconciliation window in the Senate closes in April. After that they won’t be able to use it. At least that’s what I’ve been reading but you know how it goes when it comes to democrats and rules.
“When will Obama try to pass Obamacare by executive order? I predict the first week in May. Government comes apart subsequently. Get those generators installed.”
I do think you have something there. I have detected more and more his willingness to just order something done executive orders if he can’t get his way with the congress.
...Gibbs set a deadline of March 18 for passage this morning....
Why are they doing this during Great Lent, when many of us have been giving up our “bashing” Internet comments?
Not possible. See my post #25
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