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U.S. probes Toyota repairs to recalled vehicles: WSJ
CBS Marketwatch ^ | Marketwatch

Posted on 03/03/2010 6:49:12 PM PST by Eagles2003

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- The U.S. Department of Transportation is investigating new complaints of sudden acceleration in Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles that have been repaired as part of the company's recent recalls, The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday.

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The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reportedly received several reports about sudden acceleration in vehicles even after Toyota had fixed them.

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However, a Transportation Department spokeswoman was cited in the report as saying none of the incidents has been confirmed. See full WSJ.com story.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automakers; bhodot; recall; toyota
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1 posted on 03/03/2010 6:49:12 PM PST by Eagles2003
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To: Eagles2003

Confirming a one-off event is the dickens.


2 posted on 03/03/2010 6:50:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Eagles2003

I don’t think Toyota is going to get out of this very cheaply. They can fix their cars all day long. It appears as though the owners and their lawyers are looking for a slice of the “American Dream”.


3 posted on 03/03/2010 6:53:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If you liked 2009, you're going to LOVE 2010!!!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Not this Prius owner. I took mine in, got the recall work done, and I left happy.

This is nothing but a Chicago Shakedown by the CEO of Government Motors.

The RAT Party is a criminal enterprise.

4 posted on 03/03/2010 6:57:25 PM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: Eagles2003

I forgot to mention I used to work in fuel injection and automotive electronics.

I posted here shortly after this BS started that it wasn’t over.

Eventually there will have to be post mortems done on the software and electronics to try to figure out what changes were made and when because the JAPS will never divulge that information freely.

The gas pedal BS is just a ruse to hide the real problem. All Jap automakers do this all the time with a “look the other way” NHTSA covering their backsides.


5 posted on 03/03/2010 7:05:07 PM PST by Eagles2003
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To: Eagles2003

sooooo..what’s the REAL problem?


6 posted on 03/03/2010 7:12:11 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: goodnesswins

Obama is pissed that Toyota is beating his company.


7 posted on 03/03/2010 7:16:13 PM PST by Skenderbej (No muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: Eagles2003

Just to be fair, is GM or Chrysler or Ford any more talkative?


8 posted on 03/03/2010 7:16:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Eagles2003
There was an article in this week's Automotive News about how Toyota's non-Japanese U.S. executives are really figureheads. While the U.S. is Toyota's largest market, U.S. executives did not have the authority to make any decisions regarding safety or recalls. The communication regarding this was really bad and one-way.
9 posted on 03/03/2010 7:20:39 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: Eagles2003
However, a Transportation Department spokeswoman was cited in the report as saying none of the incidents has been confirmed. See full WSJ.com story.

LOL

10 posted on 03/03/2010 7:22:10 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Eagles2003
Toyota cars are equipped with an Electronic Data Recorder (EDR) that most certanily captured throttle position information in any airbag deployment crash.

Toyota would see that the throttle position was wide open, and that the brakes were also applied. That's why they initially thought the floormats were jamming the gas pedal.

They will probably find that their throttle positioning sensor, which is just a potentiometer, is going bad on some cars.

Ever have a radio with a scratchy volume knob? You move the knob and it makes a nasty noise? Well, when the "volume knob" is used to sense where the gas pedal is, the same noise can fool the car's computer into thinking the pedal is floored.

11 posted on 03/03/2010 7:24:09 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Eagles2003

I think they have a software glitch. My wife has a 2007 Rav4. It’s not on the recall list, but twice I have experienced a different sort of acceleration problem...lack of acceleration. Each time it happened after a period of light pressure on the accelerator followed by letting completely off the accelerator. When the accelerator was pressed again it did nothing for several seconds then would gradually recover. After the first time I immediately thought it was a computer problem and this was long before the recall started hitting.


12 posted on 03/03/2010 7:25:51 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Until recently Toyota had a “Teflon” reputation. Two years ago it led all manufacturers in recalls, but it went unreported.

U.S. manufacturers are more open because Ford got beaten up so badly with the Explorer turnover problems a decade ago.

People familiar with the industry are not surprised that Toyota is having quality problems. It tried to do too much at one time in its desire to become the world's largest manufacturer.

13 posted on 03/03/2010 7:26:06 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: Eagles2003

Toyota is hiding a design flaw in their electronics. My understanding is a WOT signal from the pedal is zero volts, same as a broken wire on that circuit to the ECM.

Every car and truck sold with that FI system will have to have a new pedal position sensor and a new/reprogrammed ECM. Huge expense in design and testing before the first vehicle is even fixed.

An EOL incorporated into the circuit would have been a good idea from the start, IMHO.


14 posted on 03/03/2010 7:28:01 PM PST by wrench
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To: wrench

Ment to say “EOL resistor”.


15 posted on 03/03/2010 7:30:49 PM PST by wrench
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To: Eagles2003

“none of the incidents has been confirmed.”

Then until or unless they are, it hasn’t freaking happened.


16 posted on 03/03/2010 7:40:24 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-ent] with no Negro dialect..")
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To: 6ppc

My 2005 Sienna lags at acceleration at times, too. Not as dangerous, but it’s annoying. I think it’s a software glitch, too.


17 posted on 03/03/2010 8:16:47 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: Eagles2003

I’ll take it you don’t like JAPS.


18 posted on 03/03/2010 8:17:02 PM PST by X-FID
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To: Redleg Duke

I felt left out because I took my Prius in for it’s 90,000 mile service, and NONE of the recalls applied to my car.


19 posted on 03/03/2010 8:19:41 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 6ppc

Not saying this is your “problem”, but Toyota has traction control on most cars, and if it senses your wheels might be slipping on acceleration, it backs off. That always unnerves me.


20 posted on 03/03/2010 8:23:47 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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