To: Zanton
Whats the conservative problem with freedom? :-( I've said it before: too many conservatives have forgotten what they are supposed to be conserving, which is the radical spirit of liberty laid down by the Founding Fathers, and not the social norms of 1950's middle America.
For all his faults, Ron Paul is closer to being a genuine conservative than most of his critics are.
8 posted on
03/03/2010 7:29:33 AM PST by
Mr. Jeeves
( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
To: Mr. Jeeves
I've said it before: too many conservatives have forgotten what they are supposed to be conserving, which is the radical spirit of liberty laid down by the Founding Fathers, and not the social norms of 1950's middle America. Tell that to Patrick Henry,
"Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles."
Simple fact of the matter is, if people won't self-govern, then they will be other-governed.
10 posted on
03/03/2010 7:31:40 AM PST by
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
(We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
To: Mr. Jeeves
Bravo, Mr. Jeeves! :-) But the ultimate problem, in my view, lies with the term “conservatism” itself. Good people need to rally around a term and concept which clearly means freedom, liberty, individual rights, etc. “Conservatism” doesn’t cut it.
11 posted on
03/03/2010 7:39:05 AM PST by
Zanton
(a polite & open-minded, but fierce, advocate of classical liberalism & libertarianism)
To: Mr. Jeeves
So the Founders supported homosexual marriage, abortion on demand and pornography?
To: Mr. Jeeves
For all his faults, Ron Paul is closer to being a genuine conservative than most of his critics are.
Agreed
29 posted on
03/03/2010 9:06:35 AM PST by
Lucky9teen
(The cowards are very very concerned that someone might notice that they are cowards.)
To: Mr. Jeeves
For all his faults, Ron Paul is closer to being a genuine conservative than most of his critics are. Your line shows the real divide in the Republican party. We have RINO's, and we have Progressives, and then we have Libertarians, all of which will eventually destroy the very fabric of our society.
34 posted on
03/03/2010 11:00:00 AM PST by
itsahoot
(Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
To: Mr. Jeeves
For all his faults, Ron Paul is closer to being a genuine conservative than most of his critics are.
Conservative??? In what way? By being an anti-American truther who blames America for 9/11? Or by blaming America for every problem in the world? Or by taking every earmark he can get his hands on? He is NO conservative. He may talk like one but in all the time he has been living off of the tax payers dime what has he ever actually accomplished? Answer NOTHING!!!
48 posted on
03/03/2010 2:04:59 PM PST by
John D
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