Another new twist in birth certificate story: Hawaii "paper copy was destroyed in a fire"

World Net Daily ^ | March 2, 2010 | Joseph Farah

[jamese777]

What employees are you talking about?? You’re off on a logical fallacy or bizarre tangent.

For some reason, Cheney didn’t ask for objections, which I believe is how the procedure is supposed to go ... plus Fancy Nancy was pushing things along. Of course, at that time, we don’t know with as much certainty as we do now that the certificate number was most likely fraudulent. There may have been questions, but not to the point where anyone felt comfortable raising an objection.

Please cite the source for you reasoning. Sounds like good drama, but it may be short on factuality.

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The “employees” of Governor Lingle that I mentioned are: Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health and Dr. Alvin T. Onaka, Registrar of the state of Hawaii. They are both appointees and employees of Governor Lingle’s.

I agree that Vice President Cheney SHOULD have asked for objections to the certification of Obama’s Electoral votes. The most likely explanation to me is that because objections had to be submitted in writing and he had received none, he didn’t bother asking the question. Any of the 535 members of Congress couls have raised a point of order if they had a written objection to submit, none did.
Dick Cheney, President of the Senate was running the joint session, not Pelosi.

I already posted a link to the section of Hawaii law that allows for subpoena of vital records without the permission of the person named on the record. Here’s the link again, point 9 is what I’m referring to:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

Obama’s birth certificate can be released to a person with a valid court order from a court of competent jurisdiction.
If there was ever an investigation of Obama for forgery or fraud in connection with his internet posted COLB, a subpoena could be issued by a judge to a prosecuting attorney such as a US Attorney, a state Attorney General or a local District Attorney.

[jamese777]

All states’ chief election officials cannot be lumped into one category. Some states take the political parties’ vetting process as their own, others do not.

The plaintiffs in the Indiana case tried to use Obama’s father not being a citizen as the basis of their claim. The Court rejected that argument but that doesn’t mean that a higher or different court won’t rule differently. You can read the Indiana court’s decision for yourself here. Pay particular attention to section B “Natural Born Citizen” which begins on page 10 of the decision.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22488868/ANKENY-v-GOVERNOR-OF-THE-STATE-OF-INDIANA-APPEALS-COURT-OPINION-11120903

I’m certain that Obama does not want the eligibility issue to ever go away. It plays very well with his political base and it allows him to play the victim of right wing fanatics.

As Obama’s hero Saul Alinsky, explains: “The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength.”

I have no problem with anyone who wants to continue the fight for Obama’s records and files. That is the right of every American to demand more information and to vote against a candidate who isn’t forthcoming enough.

[votemout]

NONE of the states vetted the candidates. They accepted the parties word. As I said before.

You may have missed the part earlier where I said we need a USSC case.

[jamese777]

There have been seven attempts to interest the Supreme Court: Berg v Obama; Donofrio v Wells; Craig v US; Herbert v US, Obama and Roberts; Lightfoot v Bowen; Schneller v Cortes; and Wrotnoski v Bysiewicz. The Justices have shown no interest in any of them and when they are presented in Justices’ conference, it only takes four of the nine to agree to hear a case (the Rule of Four) so it looks like even the five conservative Justices aren’t interested.

[dalereed]

Makes no difference because it was written in disappearing ink!

[votemout]

Thank you for defining part of the problem.

[jamese777]

There’s no problem. There is just a political issue with different points of view, like any other political issue.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Are ABC, CBS, NBC, FactCheck, and N.Y. Times ‘birthers’ too?

McCain ‘birthers’: ABC, CBS, NBC, FactCheck, N.Y. Times

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2466865/posts

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=127362
Eligibility issue was huge in 2008 when Obama opponent was focus of attention