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The Rats won't give it up, but good luck with finding 10 flippers. For ex., I can't see Kratovil playing along unless he wasnts to find another job.
1 posted on 03/01/2010 4:35:48 PM PST by Nonstatist
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The ObamaCare debacle is starting to look more and more like a Kamikaze mission for the ‘RATS.


2 posted on 03/01/2010 4:37:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare - Another DemocRAT "jobs" program doomed to fail.)
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Democratic leaders have asked colleagues not to use the term "reconciliation"...

Happy to oblige. I'll use "Wreckonciliation".

3 posted on 03/01/2010 4:39:03 PM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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PORK SHOPPING!!!!

heat up the back room,

pelosi has some deals to be made.


4 posted on 03/01/2010 4:39:49 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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...HOW MUCH ARE THEY GETTING PAID?
5 posted on 03/01/2010 4:40:26 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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Republican need to find their own flippers.


6 posted on 03/01/2010 4:41:53 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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We need to figure out when this Health Care thing died. That way we can have anniversaries of the day it died, like they do for Elvis. I could see reporters like the AP's Babington coming to the 25th and maybe even the 50th anniversary of the day it died. Olbermann will probably see it in grocery stores and at gas stations, traveling incognito but very much alive.

We should ask the Mayo Clinic if they'll place the role of Graceland in this idea.


8 posted on 03/01/2010 4:46:15 PM PST by Nick Danger (Pin the fail on the donkey)
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The Rats won't give it up, but good luck with finding 10 flippers.

Fact #1...Hussein is an utterly amoral Maoist whose wettest dream is to have *government* control health care,thus controlling the very *survival* of Americans.

Fact #2...There are lots...and lots....AND LOTS...of life-tenure judgeships,lifelong $250K/yr jobs at the EPA,the Department of Education,the Equal Opportunity Commission,etc.....

Add facts 1 & 2 and it becomes clear that they just might be able to pull this off....

9 posted on 03/01/2010 4:46:44 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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The dirty deals are far from over. This whole matter isn't over.

This bunch can and will do anything for this.

10 posted on 03/01/2010 4:47:21 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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That’s right. Be the little whipped boys and girls when your leader Pelosi cracks her whip.

History will make a note of this.

This Congress will be remembered for it’s cowardly conduct and how stupid they are.


11 posted on 03/01/2010 4:48:56 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Until it brought the spotlight of public scrutiny onto their corrupt bribe solicitations, Congresscritters like Landrieu and Nelson were sporting their payoffs as if they were a 2-carat diamond engagement ring on a 20-year old girl's finger.

Even now, these Democrat's statements certainly smack of, "What'll ya give me for it!?"

HF

12 posted on 03/01/2010 4:49:19 PM PST by holden
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Does anyone think the fact that they are doing all of this for a bill that won’t be released until Wednesday?

The substance of the bill is secondary to the agenda. That is why there are Tea Parties.


13 posted on 03/01/2010 4:49:54 PM PST by marstegreg
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They’re thinking of voting for it after they voted against it, and it is the good intentions that count. They have no overall concept of what should be done and none of them will have read it.


15 posted on 03/01/2010 4:50:06 PM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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at least 10 of the 39 Democrats either declined to state their positions or said they were undecided about the revised legislation

Yeah, that sounds like weak tea to me. I cannot imagine any Democrat who voted no last time deciding to vote yes this time without huge bribes.

Especially since Kent Conrad has said that any major changes from the Senate bill cannot be done by reconciliation.

18 posted on 03/01/2010 4:53:48 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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As Conservatives, we need to start thinking about passage outside the box.

Being a congress person, relatively speaking, doesn’t pay all that well. I would not be surprised at all to find out that Pelosi is offering ‘buyout packages’ to representatives that will vote yes on the bill and get rich getting out.

I’m actually suprised I haven’t heard anyone in Conservative Talk Radio speculate on such a thing.

It goes back to a fundamental belief - there isn’t enough disincentives toward abusing your power in office. You don’t get re-elected? There’s another gig waiting - President of a University, K Street, Think Tank, etc.


19 posted on 03/01/2010 4:53:57 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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"Rick Boucher of Virginia"

He also voted for Cap & Tax. Voting for the healthcare debacle would make him a perfect 2/2 for disastrous legislation. Supporting those bills WOULD make any other lawmaker vulnerable, but most of the people of his district are so ill-informed, a majority probably have no idea who he is. If he goes through with voting in such a way, he'll probably win by 15 points, rather than his usual 20+ points. The RNC should throw some money into his district just to see what happens. Most folks around here positively loath 0bama, and Boucher has been with him from the start. If he can be linked to 0bama in the mind of the voters, it could very well cause his numbers to drop.

21 posted on 03/01/2010 4:57:47 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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These 10 are holding their hands up and saying, “Hey, Nancy, throw a bribe over here, babe.”


23 posted on 03/01/2010 4:59:12 PM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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Whores.


24 posted on 03/01/2010 5:13:54 PM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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I think for a lot of them, they know they will have to find another job. They know that they are doomed no matter how they vote. In that case, they have to vote FOR it otherwise they will not be able to find government / lobbying work in 2011.


25 posted on 03/01/2010 5:15:32 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi
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Elected officials are loath to vote two ways on a controversial issue Unless they are paid enough, feeling such a switch draws more resentment than support overall.
32 posted on 03/01/2010 6:13:12 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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I don’t see why the Republicans have such a problem with reconciliation, all it means is the following:

If the Republicans want to pass a major piece of legislation (such as Social Security reform), they need 60 votes in the Senate.

If the Democrats want to pass a major piece of legislation, they need 51 votes in the Senate.

Sounds fair to me...just what are the Republicans COMPLAINING about?


33 posted on 03/01/2010 6:54:05 PM PST by BobL
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