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Medicare tax may apply to investment income (ObamaCare tax hike)
InvestmentNews.com ^ | Feb 28 2010 | By Dan Jamieson

Posted on 02/28/2010 5:29:31 AM PST by Brugmansian

President Barack Obama's health plan proposal would extend Medicare taxes to the investment income of higher-earning households.

The health care proposal that the White House released last Monday would extend the existing 2.9% Medicare tax to unearned income — including interest, dividends, annuities, royalties and rent — for taxpayers with income exceeding $200,000 for singles and $250,000 for couples.

Currently, the Medicare tax is assessed only on wages or earned income.

The president also wants to hit these higher earners with an additional 0.9% Medicare tax on their earned income. The additional Medicare taxes are similar to those proposed in the Senate's health care bill.

The new taxes wouldn't affect income from active participation in S corporations, according to the administration.

Not surprisingly, the life insurance industry opposes the proposed changes

(Excerpt) Read more at investmentnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: medicare; obamacare
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1 posted on 02/28/2010 5:29:31 AM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Brugmansian

This Obama is beyond belief.
There isn’t anything he can’t Ruin.


2 posted on 02/28/2010 5:33:54 AM PST by chatham
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To: Brugmansian

This would mess up my entire life, which is built on rental and interest income not being taxable.

Zero can go to hell.


3 posted on 02/28/2010 5:37:01 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Brugmansian

This is an extraordinarily stupid and destructive proposal.

Is there ANY way we can get this loser out of office before he does more damage? 2012 is a long way off at the rate this Bozo is pulling stink grenades out his bunghole.


4 posted on 02/28/2010 5:39:50 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: TexasFreeper2009
How can one plan with Obama legislative blitzes?

I had planned on living off rental income.

Those people employ and pay medicare taxes.

5 posted on 02/28/2010 5:40:16 AM PST by scooby321
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To: TexasFreeper2009

interest income not being taxable.

You have me interested. I don’t own rentals, but I’m certainly curious about interest income not being taxable.


6 posted on 02/28/2010 5:41:05 AM PST by wita
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To: Brugmansian

Allow me to put this in simple terms. Medicare and Medicaid and all government health care and entitlement systems are completely and absoulutly BANKRUPT. They survive on borrowing from China and cost shifting claims to the private sector. Private insurance and retirement systems are solvent, even though they are being drained by the cost shift to the government fiascos. The socialist parasites are attempting to destroy the private system and replace it with a government system of higher taxes and rationing for all. I sure hope we can stop them.


7 posted on 02/28/2010 5:42:02 AM PST by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: Brugmansian

The problem we have here...ain’t the lack of taxation...the right kind of tax....objects, entities or activities to tax...

its a mindset. The minds that created the problem ...are not capable of a solution....


8 posted on 02/28/2010 5:42:16 AM PST by mo
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To: Brugmansian

It will be interesting to see how they intend to collect this, because right now it comes out of paychecks. Most of those new income sources don’t currently involve a withholding action, even though the mechanism exists.


9 posted on 02/28/2010 5:44:26 AM PST by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: Brugmansian

Why is this a surprize to anyone ? This also applies to the decapitation tax which states are jumping on in the guise of protecting US from “global warming”. Its being set up to maintain bloated bureaucracies which states run by socialists refuse to reduce.

THEY WILL PUSH “RECONCILIATION” and pressure must be applied to house members warning them if they vote for it
VOTE NO
OR OUT YOU GO

http://www.theusmat.com/


10 posted on 02/28/2010 5:47:37 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("There's still no MSM mention of Obama's extravagant life style while millions are unemployed")
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To: Brugmansian
I'm going to dissent from the avalanche of gotcha which is sure to come on this thread.

If you oppose paying for the medical needs of all Medicare beneficiaries through taxation, you should support abolishing Medicare.

If you support paying other people's medical bills through taxation, then you should support raising taxes - a lot.

But you can't support trillions for other people's medical bills AND not paying for it. That's our policy now - and it's a disaster.

11 posted on 02/28/2010 5:49:28 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Pretty soon everyone who has income gets fitted with meters to tax every breath. How about we tax the “earned income credit, a euphonism for federal welfare, local welfare, food stamps, rent supports, grants, subsidies and other forms of largess too?

Personal instance, I thought about going back into the workforce (I am living comfortably on investment and pension now). When I figure the taxes at our marginal level plus commuting and other work related expenses, I would be working for about 30% net of whatever amount I earned...I value my free time more than that.

It galls me to no end seeing a number of younger people who have no interest in being as successful as I was at accumulating things during my working years through hard work and denial. These are the same individuals who vote for crumbs like Ozero because they see him as their path to others assets. Frankly, I would burn my wealth rather than give it to some parasite.


12 posted on 02/28/2010 5:53:06 AM PST by Mouton
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To: screaminsunshine
They are also scheming to take away private investments from 401-K’s and make the public transfer their funds into a Government run and controlled “investment” plan that pays a massive guaranteed 3%. (And of course, it will no longer be a tax deferred. We will have to pay taxes on our full gross income, and taxes on the interest it earns.)

Of course, it will give them a whole new resource of “revenue” for them to “borrow” from like they have Social Security. (Which is why it is also bankrupt) They now owe SS about 17 Trillion Dollars. They have literally emptied the cookie jar and replaced it with worthless little paper IOU’s which we will never see a dime of ever again.

These criminals should be in prison for having stolen our retirements many times over. Had they left it alone, SS would still be in good shape. WE HAVE TO TAKE A STAND AND STOP THIS THEFT!

13 posted on 02/28/2010 5:59:52 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: Brugmansian

Maybe folks need to look at claiming the “Amish” exemption. I don’t know exactly what forms need to be filled out to get this exemption, but I’m sure someone is looking into this. A philosophic or religious exemption does not necessarily need to be based on membership to a specific church.
It’s certainly crazy to do this with investment income. How low do we want the market to go now. Under 0bamacare the IRS will have real time ability to snatch money out of a bank account or probably investment account, you might as well buy some precious metals and put it in a safe in an undisclosed location.


14 posted on 02/28/2010 6:01:17 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Brugmansian
As usual, Obama's understanding of economics is half-baked.

If the extra wealth of wealthy Americans were, as Obama seems to believe, simply stuffed into mattresses, increasing taxes on it would only mean a little less wealth for the wealthy and lumpier mattresses.

HOWEVER, the half the equation that Obama doesn't understand is that the money soon to be confiscated (under the principle of fairness) would actually immediately find its way back into the economy in ways that make it possible for ordinary Americans to borrow for housing, cars, consumables, borrow for college, etc.

Some of it would otherwise find its way to companies large and small that need it to grow employment, buy equipment, put products on the shelves, and, yes, even meet the payroll.

So if you are worried about your employment or fear that a slow down in the economy might hurt you in some other way...thank Obama's taxes on the wealthy!

15 posted on 02/28/2010 6:02:22 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Barky...because he's barking mad!!!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I got out of all traceable investments. I went to silver US coin and cash. Who cares about the miniscule intrest income at this point. By the way what do you think the tax rate will be when you want to withdraw money out of your 401.


16 posted on 02/28/2010 6:03:26 AM PST by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: grumpygresh

I am a concientious objector...Cool.


17 posted on 02/28/2010 6:04:55 AM PST by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It is called Communism.


18 posted on 02/28/2010 6:05:26 AM PST by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: Jim Noble
The point is that we have all been paying for our medicare our whole lives, but the government has been taking the surplus (that not needed for immediate expenditures) and dumping in General Fund to waste on their boondoggles.

I never expected anyone else to pay for my healthcare but the government made me set aside moneys for my own...and, not having spent it, I want it back with interest!!!

19 posted on 02/28/2010 6:08:08 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Barky...because he's barking mad!!!)
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To: screaminsunshine
Actually, it's only theoretical communism, because there is not a single case in the history of the world that can be pointed to as a "working" example.
20 posted on 02/28/2010 6:12:22 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Barky...because he's barking mad!!!)
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