Learning from the Sin of Sodom

For most of the last century, save-the-worlders were primarily Democrats and liberals. In contrast, many Republicans and religious conservatives denounced government aid programs, with Senator Jesse Helms calling them “money down a rat hole.”

Over the last decade, however, that divide has dissolved, in ways that many Americans haven’t noticed or appreciated. Evangelicals have become the new internationalists, pushing successfully for new American programs against AIDS and malaria, and doing superb work on issues from human trafficking in India to mass rape in Congo. . . .

Here is the entire thought from the New King James version of the bible.

Ezekiel 16:48-50
“As I live,” says the Lord GOD, “neither your sister Sodom nor her daughters have done as you and your daughters have done. Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom: She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness; neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty and committed abomination before Me; therefore I took them away as I saw fit."

To go along with that: Read

Romans 3:21-26
"But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus."

And it is important to realize it is possible to turn away from any sin.
1 Corinthians 6:7-11

"Now therefore, it is already an utter failure for you that you go to law against one another. Why do you not rather accept wrong? Why do you not rather let yourselves be cheated? No, you yourselves do wrong and cheat, and you do these things to your brethren! Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God."

In the guise of advocating religious humanitarian aid, the main point of the anti-religious & leftist NYtimes is found in this quote:

"Mr. Stearns quotes the prophet Ezekiel as saying that the great sin of the people of Sodom wasn’t so much that they were promiscuous or gay as that they were “arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”

If your "something to agree with on the editorial page of the New York Times" is NOT leftist pro-gay revisionist biblical interpretations you better clarify before the many FReepers better versed in the bible me enter the thread and demolish you verse by verse.

In the guise of advocating religious humanitarian aid, the main point of the anti-religious & leftist NYtimes is found in this quote:

"Mr. Stearns quotes the prophet Ezekiel as saying that the great sin of the people of Sodom wasn’t so much that they were promiscuous or gay as that they were “arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”

It makes me crazy every time I see a psuedo-Christian talk about the “sin of Sodom” being “hospitality” or some such blather. The religious left’s constant denial of the illicit and ill-ordered nature of homosexual relations oft causes them to interpret scripture in some of the most contorted of means.

There is a reason sodomy is called sodomy.

We didnt know much about Homosexuality when I was a boy. It was something we laughed about once in a while .

Today it has become old hat , and with it has come anal sex between heterosexuals. We didnt know much about fellatio either or cinnulingus, and yet today it’s common practice for couples.

It’s nothing new mind you, but it wasnt practiced as foreplay among dating couples, like it is today. Today a head job on the first date is about as normal as kissing at the door used to be.

Kids in todays middle schools know more about oral sex than most of their Grandmothers, and some know about Fisting and their Grandmothers cannot believe it even exists.

Homosexuals have made great advances, they have entered our lives in these “Special” ways. Are we better for it?

It’s not that so much as the well organized lefties who pose as “christian” theologians who try to disguise the real message of a biblical story, ie: that Sodom’s sin was one of the flesh, with analysis of parts of the story that distract the unwary from the central message ie: this moron’s use of the aspect of hospitality, which plays a secondary role in this story, to confuse and obfuscate.

This is similar to liberation theology, or the current vougue term social justice. The use of words which meant one thing to justify another ie: conflating Christ’s message of personal redemption through self discipline and charity; with marxist revolutionary philosophy of wealth redistribution by force.

Of course that is why it’s called sodomy, but you make the same mistake that the liberal theologians make when reading this story: You define the evil of Sodom too narrowly. The residents of Sodom were not only inhospitable, but they were sodomites, they were murderers, they were reprehensible on every dimension imaginable.

The major point of this article is that the Christian right is doing good things while many on the left do nothing constructive.

Your point is well taken, my expression was one of exasperation with the ill-use of the text, not an argument with the major point of the article itself. You are, of course, right as to the nature of the denizens of Sodom, I simply am fascinated by the mind of the “christian” who can twist what is so obviously a story about man’s capacity for evil into a prop for supporting the homosexual agenda

As a Roman Catholic, I am well used to the massive good work of the Church going unnoticed.

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