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House Republicans Call for Bigger Deficits Than Obama
The New American ^ | February 25, 2010 | Thomas R Edelem

Posted on 02/28/2010 4:57:35 AM PST by IbJensen

An alternative budget proposal submitted by Congressman Paul Ryan (Wis.), the House Budget Committee's Republican ranking member, would increase the federal budget deficit even more than President Obama's bloated budget — nearly $1 trillion more — according to a February 24 analysis by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).

Ryan's “alternative policy scenario” would make no serious spending cuts, but it would institute three new tax cuts. CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf explained to Ryan that “the three changes to the tax policy assumptions are estimated to increase deficits relative to the baseline projections by $9 billion in 2010 and $3.4 trillion over the 2011-2020 period, mostly from lower revenues but also from increased outlays for refundable tax credits.”

Elmendorf continued: “CBO estimates that, under the alternative scenario you specified, the deficit would amount to $1.2 trillion in 2020, about $500 billion more than the shortfall projected under baseline assumptions.” Overall, the Republican budget alternative would increase the federal budget deficit by $9.4 trillion over the next 10 years, while President Obama's fiscal 2011 budget would increase the deficit by $8.5 trillion over the same period of time.

Ironically, the House Republican website boasts its “Alternative Budget” for last year's budget (fiscal 2010) would spend less than Obama. “Under the Republican plan, deficits are $3.3 trillion lower for the 10-year budget period and fall below 3.0 percent of GDP over the 10-year period.” Ryan also postured against the recent vote to increase the national debt by $1.9 trillion, claiming:

We know irrefutably we’re going to bequeath this mountain of deficit and debt onto the next generation. Both of our parties share in the blame. No one party corners a virtue on fiscal responsibility. But we’re going to together have to come down here and fix this problem once and for all, and this doesn’t do it. This bill raises the debt limit by $1.9 trillion. It’s a fiscal cop-out so that we can talk tough in the election about how we did this and that, while we bequeathed the next generation an inferior standard of living.

The bipartisan fiscal cop-outs are evidently continuing, especially from the House Republicans.

America has two political parties, but both are engaging in a bidding war to see which can jack up the deficit higher than the other. The situation is reminiscent of Tammany Democrat William “Bourke” Cockran, who quipped back in 1894: “You can't outbid a profligate.” But what happens when two profligate parties are intent upon outbidding each other in deficit spending?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhodeficit; federalspending; gop
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1 posted on 02/28/2010 4:57:35 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
CBO Director Douglas Elmendorf explained to Ryan that “the three changes to the tax policy assumptions are estimated to increase deficits

Static analysis?

2 posted on 02/28/2010 5:00:50 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this...)
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To: IbJensen

CBO assumes static scoring on tax cuts.


3 posted on 02/28/2010 5:01:09 AM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: IbJensen

If the GOP wants to stop being viewed as being the Democrat-lite party then it should propose an actual balanced budget that cuts spending until it matches revenue. Not a budget that balances in >0 years, one that is balanced now.


4 posted on 02/28/2010 5:03:32 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: IbJensen

Well it was my understanding that the new Obama plan, hadn’t been scored by the CBO because it was too vague. But that being said, it’s back to the old argument about tax cuts and their effect on the economy. But if we’re going to get out of this mess, Washington has to quit placating voters with talk of entitlements, and cut spending, which nobody seems man enough to do. And yes Rush, Republicans and Democrats both do it!


5 posted on 02/28/2010 5:05:48 AM PST by dawn53
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To: IbJensen

What good is a CBO if they do not adjust their scoring skills with real-world analysis?

In the real world, a group of economists that did not take real-world data into account would be terminated.


6 posted on 02/28/2010 5:06:33 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: IbJensen

Bush tax cuts of 2003 INCREASED revenue!

REVENUE:

2003 $1.78 trillion
2004 $1.88 trillion
2005 $2.15 trillion
2006 $2.40 trillion
2007 $2.60 trillion

http://fms.treas.gov/mts/backissues.html


7 posted on 02/28/2010 5:10:22 AM PST by avacado
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To: IbJensen
It has been shown in the past that cutting taxes actually increases revenue. The quickest way to get this economy growing again is by creating jobs, and lowering the taxes, jobs will be created. Secondly, I would like to see a balanced budget, but that is not going to happen until after we bring the troops home from Iran and Afghanistan and cut entitlements.
8 posted on 02/28/2010 5:11:45 AM PST by Nosterrex
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To: IbJensen

The OP (formerly the GOP) budget is another example in a long line of examples illustrating there is not a fundamental difference between them and the socialist RATs. They are two factions of one big socialist Republicrat Party. Limbaugh can spew how much different the OP is from the RATs all he wants but the action of the former prove otherwise.


9 posted on 02/28/2010 5:12:13 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: IbJensen

Pure BS from the CBO static analysis crowd. These are the same geniuses who can tolerate counting $500 billion in medicare cuts twice as long as the Dem overlords demand it.


10 posted on 02/28/2010 5:23:38 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: dawn53

that plan was the health care bill: not the budget for the federal gov’t.


11 posted on 02/28/2010 5:26:09 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Man50D
The OP (formerly the GOP) budget is another example in a long line of examples illustrating there is not a fundamental difference between them and the socialist RATs

There's a HUGE difference if you pay attention.

The Dems get there by SPENDING and the Republicans get there by LOWERING TAXES.

The CBO uses a static model which assumes everything else will stay the same...but we know it doesn't.Lowering taxes, as it has been proven, actually increase the incoming revenue (Reagan did it and so did Bush).

Do you now see the fundamental difference?

12 posted on 02/28/2010 5:44:23 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: IbJensen
Wrong. Tax cuts do NOT cause deficits. In JFK's administration, Reagan's administration, and Bush's administration they ALL caused higher revenues. In Coolidge's administration they caused slightly lower revenues, but the lower government spending led to surpluses every year.

This is one of these ongoing lib fallacies that tax cuts cause deficits, a product of static economics. Three out of four times, they caused HIGHER revenues, and under Reagan, tax revenues rose 40% . . . but spending doubled.

13 posted on 02/28/2010 5:44:31 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: IbJensen

While I agree that tax cuts would lead to higher revenue by stimulating the economy through more hiring, spending, investment, etc, it still does not excuse the GOP entirely. It is ridiculous that in a budget as bloated as our current federal budget, with tons of unconstitutional spending, we cannot find 25% of the budget, at a minimum, to cut.


14 posted on 02/28/2010 5:52:35 AM PST by Anti-MSM (Personal responsibility...what a concept!)
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To: IbJensen
Tax cuts INCREASE revenue... any other statement is an outright lie.

LLS

15 posted on 02/28/2010 6:33:39 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Anti-MSM
I would cut all discretionary spending 10%... I would cut all Fed departments by 10% except defense... security and Space... which should be militarized and included in defense... but that is just me.

LLS

16 posted on 02/28/2010 6:37:45 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Tax cuts INCREASE revenue... any other statement is an outright lie.

Okay, I have one for you that is not a lie. While in the recent past, federal government revenues have increased after tax cuts, there is no definitive proof that tax cuts were the cause of the increased revenue.

There is an indication of a correlation, but that is all.

Actually, I have another one that is not a lie. Tax cuts sometimes decrease revenue. Think the left hand side of the Laffer Curve.

17 posted on 02/28/2010 7:40:31 AM PST by Darth Reardon (Im running for the US Senate for a simple reason, I want to win a Nobel Peace Prize - Rubio)
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To: Darth Reardon
Here is one for you... 40 years of business experience has shown that when taxes are cut... business expands, sales increase, profits rise and we hire more employees, which increases output, efficiency goes up and we expand and hire more people and so on and so on. When taxes go up and dims go into office... the reverse trend starts and the business world deflates... much like a balloon... that... and I actually believe in Conservative Economics. I also believe in what worked when JFK, Reagan and Bush did it... and because I have faith in my convictions and I know from experience... what works and what does not... and this is the worst “does not work” economy that I have ever endured.

LLS

18 posted on 02/28/2010 4:52:17 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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