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To: verity

Killing the enemy and making their leaders surrender. Is there some other definition?

Her whole point is that the “kill civilians = make enemies” chant is wrong, since you will end up killing civilans anyway, although perhaps in a more drawn out way, but you will also risk losing your advantage if you drag it out. That’s one of the facts of war, like it or not.

But now that I realize that your position is the same as Bambi’s (”we’re not looking for victory”), I guess I understand where you’re coming from and why you didn’t like her analysis.


50 posted on 02/27/2010 6:17:16 PM PST by livius
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To: livius
Obviously, you have no understanding of counter-insurgency doctrine nor any field experience in counterinsurgency operations.

I recommend that you read...start with Henry Liddell Hart's book Strategy: The Indirect Approach for a historical perspective; The U.S. Army/Marine Corps Counterinsurgency Field Manual [With Forewords by General David H. Petraeus and Lt. General James F. Amos and by Lt. Colonel John A. Nagl]; and FM 3-24.

To suggest that Nobama is formulating COIN doctrine only reveals how certifiably ignorant you are.

53 posted on 02/27/2010 9:14:38 PM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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