When can we let go of the myth of the “conservative” Hispanics?

The Collins Report ^ | February 26, 2010, | Kevin “Coach” Collins

[jmaroneps37]

We are in the ugly situation of being governed by Marxist socialists because of a few groups of voters who turned their back on American freedoms for their own benefit by voting for Obama.

Hispanics were one such group. The media constantly touts Hispanics as “conservatives” and thus people real conservatives should kowtow to for fear they would stop supporting Republicans. Those of us that watch politics know calling Hispanics “conservatives” is a lie.

Texas GOP Governor Rick Perry has been on the frontline of dealing with these “conservative” Hispanics and his sorry record should serve as a reminder of the folly of bargaining with a group whose main goal seems to be erasing our border controls.

It’s long past time that the Republican Party stops sucking up to Hispanics or any other groups masquerading as conservatives who black mail patriotic Americans with charges of racism.

Governor Perry’s “in state tuition” bribe

In a recent poll more than half of Hispanics in Texas self identified as conservatives, but talk is cheap. At this news a Texas Democrat responded Rick Perry “doesn’t frighten” Hispanics because he has distanced “himself from immigration hard-liners in the GOP.”

In fact Perry has a record of being soft on illegal aliens and has given them in state tuition rates at Texas state colleges. He has said he “ want[s] to [only] keep out.. people that are smuggling drugs and people.”

In 2002 Perry got 13% of the Hispanic vote, in 2006 only 14% while Democrats got three times as many.

By the numbers

Hispanics registered 57% Democrat; just 23% Republican; 66% voted for Obama.

Calling Hispanics conservatives is ridiculous. Appeasement doesn’t work, ask Rick Perry.

We’re in the midst of a conservative revolution. We should welcome true conservatives but voter blackmail stops now.

[erman]

16% according to the Bureau of the Census.

not in the only place I care about.... Texas

[kabar]

I care about the entire country.

[wardaddy]

Why?

it’s easy...anyone under 45 has been brainwashed to treat anything considered minority with kid gloves including believing lies even if it avoids besmirching a what is thought to be a non white group.

This is why whites are voluntarily giving up their dominance in a nation they built mostly and ran for 200 years.

Now whites will be a minority and everyone will be happy in our new socialist state where western civilization is an archaic study.

and I will go further...I’d wager 40% of freepers are all for it...we already know the Left gave it up a generation or two ago...can’t be considered racist now can we and all tho9se old white folks we admired...well heck...they were racist by God.

meanwhile anything minority heritage wise is to be preserved, studied and celebrated

I hope everyone will be happy in the new world where Shakespeare is a dirty word..I’ll miss it but my kids will have to endure it or fight against it.

[El Gran Salseron]

Yes, let’s correct a few sterotypes. My grandparents emigrated here from Germany. LOL My wife says that my pigment is “too white” but that she loves the blue eyes. ROFL

My wife is Cuban. Her mother was a politician and served on the education board of Batista. The family was informed that if they didn’t get out of Cuba then they would be killed.

She is very patriotic to this country, not Cuba or anywhere else. If it is at all possible, she loves this country more than I do and is very grateful to this country because no other country would allow them to immigrate.

[erman]

I care about the entire country.

Good for you. I don't. I care for what I feel a part of. I've lived in a lot of areas of the country and I'll take ugly old Texas.

I really don't feel any connection to a lot of other areas and just like the people here. That's what is so great about our country. If you don't like a part of it.... you can move.

Freedom is just peachy.

[El Gran Salseron]

“Instead, we need to gain control over our borders and begin mass deportations.”

Yes, but the mass deportations won’t work until the borders are completely controlled.

[kabar]

You are living in a parallel universe. I have lived in a lot of areas of this country and being an American trumps any alliegence to a particular state. My allegience is to the Constitution of the United States of America.

[El Gran Salseron]

“ugly old Texas”

Ugly? UGLY? Them kinda words around here can get you into a fight! :-)

[DustyMoment]

Yes, but the mass deportations won’t work until the borders are completely controlled.

Thus the reason that in my original post I stated it in the following order - "Instead, we need to gain control over our borders and begin mass deportations.”

[erman]

You are living in a parallel universe. I have lived in a lot of areas of this country and being an American trumps any alliegence to a particular state. My allegience is to the Constitution of the United States of America.

I agree that you can feel that way.

I just love Texas and the people who make it my favorite place to live , raise my family, practice my profession, keep what I earn and just live my life with family and friends. Our current government in DC and other states can't even fathom what we have here.

small examples are the little things; like my kids saying the pledge of allegience to Old Glory followed by "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible. " or the way the 13 year old girl next door shot a bigger buck 3 years ago than my son. But she was nice enough to help him quarter it up on our driveway and compare antlers.

honestly, if it was up to me I'd respectfully ask politely if we could just go our own way. I'd like to have everybody that believed in free markets , rule of law and capitalism stay and all the nipple sucking parasites go to the really smart, enlightend and progressive parts of the country north of the Red River, east of the Sabine and west of Muleshoe.

of course that's only my opinion and yor mileage may vary.

[El Gran Salseron]

Yes, Dusty. I understood that. I was merely reaffirming your position and agreeing with you. :-)

[erman]

Just remember to ALWAYS tell out of state liberals that Texas is ugly, our women are beasts, everybody is stupid and business sucks. OK? ;-)

[kabar]

In the coming years, Texas will turn purple and then blue if we don't change our immigration policies. Here is some evidence about what is happening in places like Harris, Dallas, and Tarrrant counties

Immigration, Political Realignment, and the Demise of Republican Political Prospects

"What is quite remarkable is that even when we consider Texas alone we find that, as the immigrant population has grown across its 254 counties, the Republican vote share has declined from where it stood 30 years ago. Estimates for California and Texas appear in Table 4. For Texas, the estimate shows that for every 1 percent increase in the immigrant presence in a county, the Republican vote share dropped by 0.67 percentage points, which is considerably higher than the impact nationally. A one standard deviation (σ=6.07) increase in the percentage of immigrants taking up residence in Texas counties, translates into a four percentage-point drop in Republican Party prospects, controlling for income and the percentage of black residents. Contrary to conventional wisdom, immigration is precisely why the GOP has lost so much ground in the most heavily Latino areas of South Texas, as well as in the larger urban counties."

[SharpRightTurn]

"What is quite remarkable is that even when we consider Texas alone we find that, as the immigrant population has grown across its 254 counties, the Republican vote share has declined from where it stood 30 years ago. Estimates for California and Texas appear in Table 4. For Texas, the estimate shows that for every 1 percent increase in the immigrant presence in a county, the Republican vote share dropped by 0.67 percentage points, which is considerably higher than the impact nationally. A one standard deviation (σ=6.07) increase in the percentage of immigrants taking up residence in Texas counties, translates into a four percentage-point drop in Republican Party prospects, controlling for income and the percentage of black residents. Contrary to conventional wisdom, immigration is precisely why the GOP has lost so much ground in the most heavily Latino areas of South Texas, as well as in the larger urban counties." So if Karl Rove was so brilliant, why didn't he understand this and invite, rather than ban, Tom Tancredo from the White House?

[kabar]

So if Karl Rove was so brilliant, why didn't he understand this and invite, rather than ban, Tom Tancredo from the White House?

Karl Rove is a legend in his own mind. Bush and Rove's push for anmesty divided the GOP and helped the Dems brand it as a racist party.

We had the sorry spectacle of people like Karl Rove and Lindsey Graham castigating their fellow Republicans who opposed amnesty using such epithets as bigots, racists, and nativists. These criticisms just reinforce the Democrat branding of the GOP and alienate minorities who perceive that they are not welcome in the party. Moreover, being branded as a “racist” political party hurts the GOP in recruiting new members, regardless of race or ethnicity. America is not a racist country and no one wants to be associated with a racist organization.

[chasio649]

please scoot that down to 44...for my sake ;)

[fieldmarshaldj]

I’m sure you’d like to take issue with this...

[erman]

It depends on the type of immigrant. If immigrants were made to have sponsors that were responsible for insuring that in order to come to this country you had to have a job, well that would make a huge difference.

That only with the sponsors support could any welfare benefits be given to LEGAL immigrants and only for a year. Anybody caught with illegal workers would be fined $10,000.00 for each month of work and for each employee. If more than one illegal is found in a business then the owners including board members would be prosecuted under RICO statutes for IRS violations, immigration fraud in an organized manner. This should be placed under federal jurisdiction with minimum mandatory of 1 year for every employee found to be illegal and forfeiture of salaries subject to fines in order to fund illegal immigrant health and welfare benefits.

All immigrants should be tracked and encouraged to obtain full citizenship by mastering basic English and American history. English immersion in school for all foreign immigrants and no preferential treatment of any protected class.

If you have illegal immigrants, you will have lawlessness. Gangs and thugs exploit these people and encourage patronage of selected race baiters and politicians in order to fund their criminal protection racket.

Trust me, most Mexicans hate having to pay "la mordida". But like my grandfather and father always told me growing up, " the man with the gun makes the rules". Each of my grandfather's sons was made to join the armed forces. He said " if you bleed for this country they can never say you don't belong here."

[kabar]

Many of the items you mention are already part of the law. The problem is that we are not enforcing our own laws.

LEGAL IMMIGRATION is actually more of a problem than illegal immigration and harder to resolve. We don't need 1.2 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS A YEAR, most of whom are poor and undeducated.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 34 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 80 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born. Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million.

Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 309 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million to 439 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.975 percent (2009 estimate), principally due to immigration.

Jobs and Wages – The latest data show 22.1 million immigrants holding jobs in the U.S. with an estimated 7 million being illegal aliens. By increasing the supply of labor between 1980 and 2000, immigration reduced the average annual earnings of native-born men by an estimated $1,700 or roughly 4 percent. Among natives without a high school education, who roughly correspond to the poorest tenth of the workforce, the estimated impact was even larger, reducing their wages by 7.4 percent. The reduction in earnings occurs regardless of whether the immigrants are legal or illegal, permanent or temporary. It is the presence of additional workers that reduces wages, not their legal status.

Health Care – 34 percent of immigrants lack health insurance, compared to 13 percent of natives. Immigrants and their U.S.-born children account for 71 percent of the increase in the uninsured since 1989. Our Emergency Rooms have been turned into free health care clinics for immigrants, legal and illegal, affecting the quality and timeliness of services and increasing medical costs subsidized by the insured and the taxpayers.

Social Welfare Programs – The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 33 percent, compared to 19 percent for native households. The poverty rate for immigrants and their U.S.-born children (under 18) is 17 percent, nearly 50 percent higher than the rate for natives and their children. Massive low-skill immigration works to counteract government anti-poverty efforts. While government works to reduce the number of poor persons, low-skill immigration pushes the poverty numbers up. In addition, low-skill immigration siphons off government anti-poverty funding and makes government efforts to shrink poverty less effective. Milton Friedman said, “You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.”

Here is what we need to to do to get immigration under control:

We need a pro-immigrant, low immigration policy that contains the following elements:

 A merit based immigration system that brings in the skills and talents to keep us competitive in the global economy;

 Reduced immigration levels based on need and more closely approximating 500,000 immigrants a year recommended by the Jordan Commission;

 Elimination of extended chain migration, i.e., family reunification, limiting it to the nuclear family;

 Enforcement of existing immigration laws to reduce the current illegal alien population and limit future illegal immigration, i.e., attrition thru enforcement. Enforcement would include: (1) ending the job magnet; (2) increasing coordination at the federal level by eliminating barriers to information sharing among agencies; (3) leveraging state and local enforcement resources; (4) fully implementing the US-VISIT Program to track and deport visa overstays; and (5) make mandatory and improve such programs as E-Verify and 287 [g] authority to assist employers and law enforcement in identifying illegal aliens;

 Elimination of birthright citizenship;

 Ensure that anyone who enters this nation illegally is not rewarded by being permitted to stay and work here; i.e., no amnesty;

 Streamline the processing and adjudication of immigration cases; and

 Promote pro-immigrant measures that help newcomers assimilate and embrace the values and principles of our Founders and the Constitution.

[El Gran Salseron]

“Just remember to ALWAYS tell out of state liberals that Texas is ugly, our women are beasts, everybody is stupid and business sucks. OK? ;-)”

ROFL OK!