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When can we let go of the myth of the “conservative” Hispanics?
The Collins Report ^ | February 26, 2010, | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 02/26/2010 6:08:35 AM PST by jmaroneps37

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Let's stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote. Hispanics will always vote Democrat and if selling out our border security is the price of getting them to vote Republican we have to tell them "thanks but no thanks." I rather go forward without them because we don't need anymore socialist in our "tent."
1 posted on 02/26/2010 6:08:35 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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Just look at where the Hispanics come from ... Socialism and the perpetual homes of the promised free lunches that never seem to show up.


2 posted on 02/26/2010 6:11:14 AM PST by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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We can dump the idea of conservative Hispanics about the time we dump the idea of the conservative black.
It just ain’t gonna happen.

No offense to blacksuga.


3 posted on 02/26/2010 6:12:21 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy.)
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Let’s stop treating “Hispanics” as a monolith. Some Spanish speakers from some LatAm countries (Colombia, Cuba, Peru and Chile, for example) tend to be conservative, both socially and politically.

The great majority of Mexicans and Puerto Ricans are not, mainly because they were poor and uneducated in their home countries and were absorbed into the Democratic Party as soon as they got here.

However, the thing that is true among all Latin American cultures is a great love of entrepreneurship. The dream of every Dominican arriving in New York was to start his own little grocery store or car service or some other business, and this was true of Puerto Ricans, too. If you look at Mexican areas, you’ll see hundreds of little businesses, founded by Mexican immigrants (look at black areas, and you’ll see almost no black-founded or owned small businesses).

So the appeal that must be made by Republicans is to the fundamental desire for independence and financial achievement that is the basis of Latin American entrepreneurship.


4 posted on 02/26/2010 6:14:07 AM PST by livius
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Ahem.

5 posted on 02/26/2010 6:16:45 AM PST by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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The only consistent group of Hispanic Conservatives has been the Cuban community and primarily those prior to the Muriel boat lift under Jimmah Carter's term. They were and are highly educated and intelligent and know the effects of Communism.

The most recent Hispanic immigrants are generally uneducated and impoverished. The Marxist tactics of free goodies for votes greatly appeals to them.

6 posted on 02/26/2010 6:19:36 AM PST by MBB1984
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Exactly. Blacks are even worse, 94% voted for obama. Even people like J.C. Watts who supposedly was so conservative couldn’t repeal the magnetic attraction to vote for the big 0.


7 posted on 02/26/2010 6:24:22 AM PST by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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Lets also get rid of the myths that most blacks are conservative and that 75% of Americans think of themselves as conservatives. Elections dont lie. 90-95% of blacks are liberal. The country is divided 30%leftist loons, 30% conservatives, 40% mushy moderates.


8 posted on 02/26/2010 6:26:44 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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There are many conservatives who are ‘hispanic.’ The way to build a base among them is the same way to build a base of conservatives of any other ancestry - with conservative ideas. We need to stop this goofy game of breaking people into politically meaningless groups and targeting them with what we think they want to hear.


9 posted on 02/26/2010 6:27:24 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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Whatever social conservatism they bring here with them is generally gone by the next generation. Take a look at the piece Michelle Malkin has up about the young hispanic man whose immigrant parents told him to “work hard and don’t be a burden on your new country”. That lasted until he figured out he could join Americorps and get $30K stipend, get all his student loans forgiven, and yet still receive food stamps. Now he is a leading Obamabot.


10 posted on 02/26/2010 6:27:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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The Republicans’ Hispanic Delusion Amnesty is not just wrong in principle, it’s bad politics.
11 posted on 02/26/2010 6:35:19 AM PST by kabar
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I know a few conservative Hispanics. They are educated and second generation in this country - legally. They are also doctors. They can’t STAND Obama!


12 posted on 02/26/2010 6:35:21 AM PST by RebelTXRose
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How do you define an Hispanic?


13 posted on 02/26/2010 6:36:43 AM PST by kabar
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Let's stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote. Hispanics will always vote Democrat

Yeah, but only while they think of themselves as Hispanic. Once they think of themselves as American, it's much easier.

We should focus on the similarity of their experience with that of Germans, Irish, and others that immigrated and how they became part of our union.

An Ellis Island on the north shore of the Rio Grande would be a good start. It worked for other groups.

14 posted on 02/26/2010 6:39:38 AM PST by GeorgeSaden
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Mexicans like our black brothers and sisters,are socially conservative for the most part but when it comes to fiscal issues, many(not all) will vote for the candidate that promises them the most goodies.

Cubans,Guatemalans, Salvadorans and Colombians appear to by all around,solid conservatives.


15 posted on 02/26/2010 6:40:16 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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Let's stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote.

Let's cut the collective crap....period!

Catering to any group because of their groupage is the very basis of the liberal mindset, and we need to distance ourselves from it altogether, IMHO.

Conservative ideals MUST be based on the individual FIRST, as the individual selves of the People are the very foundation of our naturally given rights.

Stand on solid ground, and the followers will take care of themselves.

16 posted on 02/26/2010 6:40:17 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am not a administrative, corporate, collective, legal, political or public entity or ~person~)
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Let’s let go of other myths, too. My favorite is that if he had lived, somehow JFK would be a conservative today.

That’s absurd. He would have been one of the worst liberals on the scene. I know about his opinions then, but odds are he would be a sickening lib in 2010.


17 posted on 02/26/2010 6:41:58 AM PST by Ted Grant
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Well said.


18 posted on 02/26/2010 6:42:08 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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The Catholic Church promotes Socialism, why wouldn’t Catholic Hispanics do the same?


19 posted on 02/26/2010 6:42:50 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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“Let’s stop playing make believe with the Hispanic vote. Hispanics will always vote Democrat and if selling out our border security is the price of getting them to vote Republican we have to tell them ‘thanks but no thanks.’ I rather go forward without them because we don’t need anymore socialist in our ‘tent.’”

This crap sandwich was promoted by Jorge Arbusto and his sidekick, Rove.

The changing demographic in this country is killing us. I’d be surprised to find that even 10% of the people we are importing will turn out to be conservative voters.

Conservatives who support the present immigration scheme (Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 present to us) are suicidal.


20 posted on 02/26/2010 6:43:01 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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