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Host vs. Host: Limbaugh, Levin Pummel Beck
The Atlantic Wire ^ | 02/24/10 | Jake Simpson

Posted on 02/24/2010 12:59:45 PM PST by writer33

Virtually unknown a year ago, Glenn Beck has rapidly risen to the top of the right-wing punditocracy. Witness his keynote address at CPAC, where the Fox News titan assailed Republicans and Democrats alike and called for a return to bedrock conservative values. Though conservatives bloggers were nonplussed by Beck's attacks on the right, most praised at least some elements of his speech.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: beck; chrisdavis; glennbeck; levin; limbaugh; rushlimbaugh; talkradio
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To: Nevadan
Also, you really think republicans are the same as democrats? - that Jim DeMitt is the same as Harry Reid, that Scott Brown is the same as Nancy Pelosi?

Do you believe that McCain, Specter, Crist, and Scuzzafava(sp?) aren't worse that someone like Bayh?

201 posted on 02/24/2010 5:16:27 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: who knows what evil?
Beck damn near beat O’Reilly in the ratings on Tuesday.

There sure are a lot of conservatives that watch O'Reilly. He's been #1 on Fox for like FOREVER.

202 posted on 02/24/2010 5:39:16 PM PST by whatisthetruth
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To: Pan_Yan
Limbaugh: We need to get the democrats out of power and then work to make the republicans act like conservatives. Removing the democrats is the number one priority.

Beck: When the republicans have been in power they haven’t acted like conservatives in 22 years. We need to elect conservatives and not just hold our noses and vote for the lesser of two evils. If we put the same people in power that were in power from 2001-2007 we are doomed.

Perfect synopsis. And both sides have merit and are worthy of a serious, reasoned and respectful debate.

Too bad we seem to be incapable of that these days.

203 posted on 02/24/2010 6:02:31 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

My mistake. I was just trying to reply quickly.

The Website of this Article by Walter Scott Hudson, is www.newpatriotjournal.com

As Rush Limbaugh has said many times, look where the enemies of Conservatives are aiming there fire, and you know who is being the most effective, whether Conservative Politicians or T.V. and/or Radio Hosts.

Right now, Beck and Limbaugh are the ones being targeted by the Left Wing Media. They both, must be doing something right.


204 posted on 02/24/2010 6:42:05 PM PST by Mifflin
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To: writer33
WARNING: This is one of many recent LameStream Media hit pieces on Beck attempting to divide and conquer the audiences of various "right wing" talk radio hosts.

Don't fall for it !!

205 posted on 02/24/2010 6:46:49 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: JRochelle

You should watch Beck’s show, it is complety different and 100 times better than his radio show.

Than you and others can comment on Beck besides 1 CPAC speech, and maybe you might learn something.

Beck is no flash in the pan. Again, you have not watched his T.V. show, or you would know that. Use a DVR, like I do.


206 posted on 02/24/2010 6:50:32 PM PST by Mifflin
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To: DTogo
You're right. This notion is Rush pummeling Beck is totally bogus. I'm listening to Rush now and here's what happened (as I posted it another thread):

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Rush’s first call of the day was from a seasoned-citizen named Bev. Bev took exception to Rush earlier in the week saying that had he given Saturday’s CPAC speech, he would have taken it in a different direction. Rush defended his position, which by all accounts were respectful, but Bev would have none of it. She was reeling off a laundry list of Republican sins, and Rush responded by citing all of the instances of him opposing Republican measures, concessions, appointments, etc.

Meanwhile, Snerdley was on the other side of the glass taking similar calls from irate Beck supporters, to everyone’s frustration.

Finally, Rush threw his hands in the air, ended the call and went to break.

Later in the show, out of a nowhere, a loud buzzer went off and Rush stopped what he was saying to interject: “The Republicans are no different than the Democrats... they’re worthless!”. Then he’d get back to his point.

A little later, in mid-monologue, the buzzer sounds again. Rush stops, shouts: “Republicans suck!”

And so on and so forth.

To be honest, I’m still laughing myself silly. It was brilliant. And it was more of a response to the irate callers than it was an attack on Beck.

So, that’s what I get for reading about what Rush said second-hand. I should know better. My apologies.

207 posted on 02/24/2010 6:53:06 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: JRochelle

Yes, he does in fact say it all the time, in context.

What he has never said, is “all Republicans are like all Democrats”, which was the original quote I was refering to. He has never said Bush is like Obama. He said Bush was a big spender and Obama has been far worse. Beck recognizes the difference, but his is not sucking on Bush’s thumb - he is calling him out for being a big spender and doubling our National Debt at the time.

He has never said that John McCain is just like Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi. He says those two are worse. But he has said that McCain is a progressive who has aided the leftist cause.

Maybe we are talking through each other. I don’t know.

I agree with you that he has said the line “the Republicans are the same as the Democrats”. I agree he has said, “they are no different”. But it is always in the context of his topic. It is not said in a general sense as if the Republicans had opposed the war in Iraq along with the Democratic opposition.


208 posted on 02/24/2010 6:54:49 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Depression Countdown: 43... 42... 41...)
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To: writer33

Doesn’t Levin refer to Beck as a “backbencher”?


209 posted on 02/24/2010 6:54:49 PM PST by Heman11 (the truth is not relative)
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To: upsdriver

Well, good luck. By November, there will be a $14 trillion national debt, and not a single solitary political figure having prepared the American people for what must happen to survive economically. What’s worse? A hollow victory with a continuance of the nanny state on a slightly slower march, or a valiant setback in which principled politicians finally got the debate onto a rational footing?

I’d rather prepare the ground for the next cycle by conducting an intervention for the American people - one that they might initially and suicidally reject - rather than hand them another lesser dose of the substance that they’re hooked on; simply to get into office without a real mandate.


210 posted on 02/24/2010 6:57:47 PM PST by qwertypie
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To: Deb

Read this article below. How the hell are we every going to pay off 100 Trillion in Federal Gov. Liabilities. Beck, is telling the truth. No one likes to talk about the realities of this country, which is in serious trouble. Electing Republicans will not reduce the debt one cent, they have proven it, unless they are hardcore Conservatives with huge backbones.

Beck and many others are warning us that the traditional GOP, and of course democrats, cannot solve this crushing debt problem.

The $100 Trillion Problem: Can America Learn From Chile Before It’s Too Late?
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 02/23/2010 21:14 -0500

Jose Pinera provides an Entitlement State 101 lecture, in which Chile’s former Labor and Social Security Minister demystifies the U.S.’s $100 trillion unfunded benefits problem. Since Pinera is the man who many years ago privatized Chile’s entitlement system, America, and the entire Western system, which for the past century has been relying on unfunded liabilities to provide benefits to the population in the hopes that funding day will never come, may do well to listen to what he has to say. His message: the American way of life, more so than anything else, in which reckless spending, living on credit and not saving for the future, is precisely why the US will be bankrupt very soon. Chile swallowed the bitter pill 30 years ago and after a lot of pain, managed to get out of the hole. Will enabler state #1, America, fail where this allegedly “backward” South American country succeeded?
Some insight from Pinera:

“$100 trillion is the present value of what Americans will have one way or another to pay, unless they default on their obligation to their citizens. And that is the future, and I am extremely worried because you are like passengers in the Titanic. You see the Titanic is going toward the iceberg of aging populations but populations the feel entitled to all these huge benefits that the politicans have promised the people, but they have not funded the benefits for the future. So how are you going to pay them? That is the big issue, the big domestic problem facing America.”
And this:
The problem is the entitlement state. The problem is that there is a gigantic disconnect between what the people want the government to pay them in the future, in health, pension, and what the people want to pay in tax. And because the entitlement state is based on promises for the future, you don’t have to pay it today, this is growing, because to win elections politicians offer benefits to people that would be paid to people in the future. So this big hole is not only a problem in America, it’s exactly the same problem in Greece today, in Southern Europen, in France, in Germany. The west will go bankrupt unless you reform deeply the entitlement state. You are all prisoners of the Bismark unfunded entitlement system...With the aging of population, the extended life, you have been accumulating these huge liabilities that eventually will bankrupt the government. A huge fiscal crisis is coming to the west unless you face it and confront it directly...You either will have to raise taxes big time in America, or you will have to cut benefits. But it is extremely difficult to do that, in a system in which you have people entitled to all this things.


211 posted on 02/24/2010 6:58:55 PM PST by Mifflin
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

It was funny, and Rush made a great point.


212 posted on 02/24/2010 7:02:39 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: everyone; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; GOP_Lady; writer33

RUSH IN A HURRY


posted daily by GOP_Lady.
213 posted on 02/24/2010 7:09:11 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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Sorry for all the typos in #207. Listening to Rush and typing is almost as difficult as texting and driving. Next time I’ll hit pause.


214 posted on 02/24/2010 7:18:29 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Mifflin

So *THATS* why Obama wanted the death panels...

...to get out of having to pay that $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities.


215 posted on 02/24/2010 7:24:13 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: DTogo

If anything, it was a good-natured ribbing — one that was prompted by Bev’s call more than any desire to go after Glenn Beck.

His point was, of course there’s a difference. And of course, he’s right. Knowing how Glenn looks up to Rush, I’m going to guess that he got the message. Hopefully, Glenn will lose the broad brush and go after those (many) Republicans who genuinely deserve the heat we all give them. And hopefully, these guys will reach a truce and get back to the business of saving our country. We can’t afford to waste any more time on this nonsense.


216 posted on 02/24/2010 7:26:49 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: writer33; Bigtigermike; Deb; STARWISE; maggief; SoCalPol; MinuteGal; flaglady; GOP_Lady; Al B.; ...
Here's one that has been completely ignored in all the uproar about Glenn Beck and all the players love Sarah Palin.

Palin joins Glenn Beck in Tulsa,OK (Take Our Country Back Tour)


217 posted on 02/24/2010 7:30:48 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: onyx; writer33

I get Palin just jump the shark for writer33.


218 posted on 02/24/2010 7:35:08 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla; onyx; writer33

Argh...

I meant to say, “I guess Palin just jumped the shark for writer33.”


219 posted on 02/24/2010 7:36:21 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: onyx

Saw this earlier.
This is more of a broad event.
Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham will also be involved

On his TV program, Sean has made comments that run opposit of Beck.
Hannity being long time good friends with Levin and Rush.
Also Sean speaks out against 3rds


220 posted on 02/24/2010 7:38:45 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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