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Aloha Segregation
NRO ^ | FEBRUARY 23, 2010 4:00 A.M. | The Editors

Posted on 02/23/2010 9:29:51 AM PST by 11th Commandment

A bill expected to pass the House today with overwhelming Democratic support would accomplish something peculiar for a liberal republic in the 21st century: It would partly disenfranchise a portion of one state’s residents, create a parallel government for those meeting a legislated criterion of ethnic purity, and would portend the transfer of public assets, land, and political power from those who fail to satisfy the standard of ethnic purity to those who do. For these reasons and many more, the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act richly deserves opposition.

Strangely, though, it has met very little resistance. The bill is being hot-footed out of the House because one of its principal sponsors, Hawaii Democrat Rep. Neil Abercrombie, is leaving Congress to run for governor of his home state. The legislation is chiefly the work of Sen. Daniel Akaka, another Hawaii Democrat, who has proposed similar legislation in the past, without success.

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This is unbelievable. We have a Congress that believes they can create Sovereigns within the United State at its own pleasure. Imagine the tyranny congress can impose on a state by simply carving up segments of its population into sovereign political groups.
1 posted on 02/23/2010 9:29:51 AM PST by 11th Commandment
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To: 11th Commandment

My wife and I love Hawaii and have been there several times, we are going again in April.

That said, they are some of the most racist people you will ever meet outside of the confines of your resort or hotel.


2 posted on 02/23/2010 9:32:40 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Another article: http://article.nationalreview.com/425840/trouble-in-paradise/duncan-currie


3 posted on 02/23/2010 9:33:27 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 11th Commandment

I suspect this is because a lot of folks don’t think of Hawaii as any more “American” than the Bahamas, the Virgin Islands, Fiji, or New York City.


4 posted on 02/23/2010 9:36:28 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: 11th Commandment

“For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies”


5 posted on 02/23/2010 9:40:50 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: MikeWUSAF

imagine the attitude when Hawaii becomes one big reservation


6 posted on 02/23/2010 9:41:07 AM PST by silverleaf (We don't want everyone in Washington to get along, We want them to get out of the way)
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To: Marty62

WOW- what an awesome point.....


7 posted on 02/23/2010 9:43:06 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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This is unbelievable. We have a Congress that believes they can create Sovereigns within the United State at its own pleasure. Imagine the tyranny congress can impose on a state by simply carving up segments of its population into sovereign political groups.


There is American Indian tribal sovereignty in many states. This bill is an attempt to give indigenous Hawaiians legal status similar to the federally recognized Indian tribes.
I personally have no problem with it and the current Republican Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle has endorsed the bill and she is term limited and done after November elections. The Republican Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark Bennett is also a supporter.
“”The legislation I introduce today seeks to build upon the foundation of reconciliation. It provides a structured process to bring together the people of Hawai`i, along a path of healing to a Hawai`i where its indigenous people are respected and culture is embraced. Through enactment of this legislation, we have the opportunity to demonstrate that our country does not just preach its ideas, but lives according to its founding principles. As it has for America’s other indigenous peoples, I believe the United States must fulfill its responsibility to Native Hawaiians.” —Senator Daniel Akaka


8 posted on 02/23/2010 9:53:00 AM PST by jamese777
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To: 11th Commandment

Do the proponents of this thing call themselves the “National Socialist Hawaiian Workers’ Party”?


9 posted on 02/23/2010 9:54:30 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 11th Commandment

I have been reading the declaration of Independence this AM.
It is quite enlightening as to how many of the original greivances are being forced on us today.

All we have to do is dust it off and start demanding redress of our greivances.


10 posted on 02/23/2010 9:55:09 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: jamese777
There is American Indian tribal sovereignty in many states. This bill is an attempt to give indigenous Hawaiians legal status similar to the federally recognized Indian tribes. Native Hawaiians are not Indians, congress can not regulate them under the Commerce Clause.

Republican Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle has endorsed the bill and she is term limited and done after November elections. The Republican Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark Bennett is also a supporter.

Unfortunately, the party does not matter but the constitution. Section. 3. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

11 posted on 02/23/2010 9:59:06 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: MikeWUSAF
I have heard of violent racist attacks on Caucasians by several sources. It is my understanding the police quietly turn the other way.
12 posted on 02/23/2010 10:09:51 AM PST by MBB1984
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To: 11th Commandment

Unfortunately, the party does not matter but the constitution. Section. 3. New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.


Indigenous peoples’ sovereignty does not create “states.” There are currently about 310 Indian reservations within the United States.

US Law allows for limited tribal sovereignty and federal law allows for commonwealth status such as that of Puerto Rico and The Virgin Islands.
The Supreme Court has never ruled sovereign tribal lands to be unconstitutional. In fact the US Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of old treaties that had been abrogated.


13 posted on 02/23/2010 10:48:03 AM PST by jamese777
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To: MBB1984

Pearl Harbor is the only redeeming quality of Oahu. The other islands are much nicer and safer. We prefer the Big Island, specifically Kona, but even it has shady areas.


14 posted on 02/23/2010 10:58:28 AM PST by TSgt (RE-ELECT NOBODY)
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To: 11th Commandment
According to the 14th amendment, "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States..."

Unfortunately the amendment doesn't prevent Congress from doing exactly that.

15 posted on 02/23/2010 11:16:07 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: jamese777
US Law allows for limited tribal sovereignty and federal law allows for commonwealth status such as that of Puerto Rico and The Virgin Islands.....The Supreme Court has never ruled sovereign tribal lands to be unconstitutional. In fact the US Supreme Court has upheld the constitutionality of old treaties that had been abrogated.

All true, but the historical criticism of this Bill (since its orgin in 2000)is that Hawaiian Natives are not Indians and congress has no authority regulate them. The court has upheld Indian sovereignty because of the history of Indian Nations, unlike the Hawaiian monarchy that had been over thrown.

Additionally, the territory argument does not apply because Hawaii is a State and congress can not carve out lands within a state.

16 posted on 02/23/2010 12:05:58 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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One more time, courts give Indians additional land within states all the time due to abrogated treaties.


17 posted on 02/23/2010 12:29:44 PM PST by jamese777
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I got it, one more time, Native Hawaiians are NOT Indians...


18 posted on 02/23/2010 12:44:20 PM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 11th Commandment

The bill is to give Native Hawaiians similar status as indigenous peoples. If its unconstitutional, let’s let the US Supreme Court strike it down.


19 posted on 02/23/2010 7:44:49 PM PST by jamese777
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