Posted on 02/22/2010 9:06:23 PM PST by DesertRenegade
California Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) chairman Ryan Sorba generated a media controversy when he was shown at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) denouncing the organizers for inviting a homosexual Republican group, GOProud, into the event as an official sponsor. In "controversial" remarks, Sorba said homosexuality was unnatural and that he welcomed more debate and discussion about the subject from his political adversaries.
But what many people don't realize is that Sorba's "outburst" was provoked by a speaker who preceded him, Alexander McCobin of Students For Liberty (SFL).
McCobin went out of his way to use valuable time from the podium to thank the American Conservative Union, the main CPAC organizer, for making the controversial decision to approve GOProud's participation.
David Keene, a lobbyist, is the chairman of the ACU and personally approved GOProud's involvement in CPAC.
Sorba told AIM, "I think CPAC went overboard this year. I don't think he [Keene] should be sitting at the top of CPAC." He noted that CPAC over the last several years has also allowed groups such as the ACLU to have exhibits at the event.
"What's next?," Sorba asked. "Are they going to have Republicans for Obamacare? Republicans for free abortions?"
Incredibly, McCobin of SFL told me that his group "is not a conservative organization" and that "We spent this past weekend reaching out to the left and the right at both the Young Democrats of America's convention and the Conservative Political Action Conference. We are not left or right."
If they are not conservative, Sorba asked, "What are they doing at CPAC?"
No stranger to controversy, Sorba is the author of the book, The Born Gay Hoax (this is a working draft) and was shouted down at Smith College by lesbian activists because of his support for traditional values.
The foolish consistency that is the hobgoblin of a small mind.
“I never heard of their being funded by a rich liberal. Do you have some links?”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2197695/posts
So now you are pushing homosexuality in the military.
George Washington was pretty harsh with homosexuals when he found them in the American army.
HEH?
what the ell you trying to say?
Good point. “not flaunting it” excludes quite a few. But not all.
“That is what I’m saying, if you mean politically flaunting it with demands on government”
Well, duh.
When the homosexuals came to CPAC, were they just expressing their personal flaunts. No.
The reality is that they are making homosexual demands of an ideology to take to a political party, thus to demand of government.
Come on.
Then they would be hypocrites, supporting conservatism while holding to something that is diametrically opposed to it. See below.
>But I also oppose your religious views being imposed on those who do not agree.<
You make a distinction between “sanction” and “promote”, but you suppose my stating the Biblical basis why homosexuality is contrary to the well being of the country is “imposing” my views. Well i am not, but the fact is the State cannot help to “impose” moral views whenever it make laws reflecting values, and America has historically overall held the Bible as the most primary single source for such, without requiring formal adherence to a faith. Instead Christianity was basically the civil religion, in homes as well as schools, and without which you would not have had small gov and key freedoms without anarchy, as unless souls are controlled from within, they will have to be controlled from without. See here: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/CauseEffect.html
Now we have State-sponsored secular humanism with its ever-morphing morality, and If you want to see what this is costing in souls, lives and money, see here: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html
Self ping to pingout tomorrow.
As a movement it redefines the Bible, sexual propriety, marriage (in both who is joined and as re. monogamy) so “conservative” is not an obstacle. Sadly, some conservatives seem to agree.
If you read their game plan, you can see it being implemented. http://www.defendthefamily.com/_docs/resources/8142838.pdf
“They demand acceptance.”
No
They demand a nod of validation for their perversion.
They demand an endorsement of their “orientation” over any other component of their being.
They demand public attention if not outright esteem for their behavior that they proudly wear on their sleeve.
They demand the cultural dismantling of a taboo that goes against nature itself.
They demand the government be a partner in their Fascistic condemnation of anyone who dares to disagree with their agenda.
They SAY they only demand that we amend the very definition of marriage for the sake of equality. But it has never been about something that they want to GAIN. It’s all about what they want to DEPRIVE us of.
And they’ve gotten most of their agenda handed them in the last 10 years. If they get their way, the GENDER of our children’s choice of a mate will be of no consideration or consequence.
Gayness is the antithesis of conservatism. Being void of self-constraint, homosexuality is an inherently liberal trait. Conservatives and gays will never be able to peacefully co-exist. And I’m quite comfortable ceding that demographic to the other side.
Certainly there is a vast difference between having a fault you are seeking to overcome, versus justifying and promoting it, but GoProud is seeking to do the latter, and even will require others to do so.
More than George (http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_laws), but these must be disallowed as they were obviously imposing their religion. And so there goes laws against polygamy, bestiality, and the like. Such conservatism will lead to anarchy,or loss of basic freedoms.
Even a blind pig sometimes gets an acorn.
Late here also. Be back in the morning. Oh its already morning.
In Spain we already see the critters being officially brought into the act.
Which is better than selling out tomorrow.
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