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The Gay Infiltration of the Conservative Movement
Right Side News ^ | Feb 23, 2010 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 02/22/2010 9:06:23 PM PST by DesertRenegade

California Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) chairman Ryan Sorba generated a media controversy when he was shown at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) denouncing the organizers for inviting a homosexual Republican group, GOProud, into the event as an official sponsor. In "controversial" remarks, Sorba said homosexuality was unnatural and that he welcomed more debate and discussion about the subject from his political adversaries.

But what many people don't realize is that Sorba's "outburst" was provoked by a speaker who preceded him, Alexander McCobin of Students For Liberty (SFL).

McCobin went out of his way to use valuable time from the podium to thank the American Conservative Union, the main CPAC organizer, for making the controversial decision to approve GOProud's participation.

David Keene, a lobbyist, is the chairman of the ACU and personally approved GOProud's involvement in CPAC.

Sorba told AIM, "I think CPAC went overboard this year. I don't think he [Keene] should be sitting at the top of CPAC." He noted that CPAC over the last several years has also allowed groups such as the ACLU to have exhibits at the event.

"What's next?," Sorba asked. "Are they going to have Republicans for Obamacare? Republicans for free abortions?"

Incredibly, McCobin of SFL told me that his group "is not a conservative organization" and that "We spent this past weekend reaching out to the left and the right at both the Young Democrats of America's convention and the Conservative Political Action Conference. We are not left or right."

If they are not conservative, Sorba asked, "What are they doing at CPAC?"

No stranger to controversy, Sorba is the author of the book, The Born Gay Hoax (this is a working draft) and was shouted down at Smith College by lesbian activists because of his support for traditional values.


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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The foolish consistency that is the hobgoblin of a small mind.


141 posted on 02/22/2010 11:18:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: EDINVA

“I never heard of their being funded by a rich liberal. Do you have some links?”

http://americansfortruth.com/news/gay-money-man-tim-gill-ex-log-cabin-leader-guerriero-lead-stealth-campaign-to-turn-state-legislators-democratic.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2197695/posts


142 posted on 02/22/2010 11:19:31 PM PST by DesertRenegade
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

So now you are pushing homosexuality in the military.

George Washington was pretty harsh with homosexuals when he found them in the American army.


143 posted on 02/22/2010 11:23:52 PM PST by ansel12 ( (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.))
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To: mamelukesabre
...as long as they don’t flaunt it.

That is what I'm saying, if you mean politically flaunting it with demands on government. Individual flaunting is a matter of free speech, as your expression of approval or disapproval and private action (disassociation and the like) also would be.
144 posted on 02/22/2010 11:24:23 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

HEH?

what the ell you trying to say?


145 posted on 02/22/2010 11:25:42 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Good point. “not flaunting it” excludes quite a few. But not all.


146 posted on 02/22/2010 11:27:53 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“That is what I’m saying, if you mean politically flaunting it with demands on government”

Well, duh.

When the homosexuals came to CPAC, were they just expressing their personal flaunts. No.

The reality is that they are making homosexual demands of an ideology to take to a political party, thus to demand of government.

Come on.


147 posted on 02/22/2010 11:28:29 PM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll vote 4 conservatives...Mitt won't get my vote)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Then they would be hypocrites, supporting conservatism while holding to something that is diametrically opposed to it. See below.

>But I also oppose your religious views being imposed on those who do not agree.<

You make a distinction between “sanction” and “promote”, but you suppose my stating the Biblical basis why homosexuality is contrary to the well being of the country is “imposing” my views. Well i am not, but the fact is the State cannot help to “impose” moral views whenever it make laws reflecting values, and America has historically overall held the Bible as the most primary single source for such, without requiring formal adherence to a faith. Instead Christianity was basically the civil religion, in homes as well as schools, and without which you would not have had small gov and key freedoms without anarchy, as unless souls are controlled from within, they will have to be controlled from without. See here: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/CauseEffect.html

Now we have State-sponsored secular humanism with its ever-morphing morality, and If you want to see what this is costing in souls, lives and money, see here: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/RevealingStatistics.html


148 posted on 02/22/2010 11:28:34 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord [only Biblical object of petition] shall be saved")
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To: daniel1212

Self ping to pingout tomorrow.


149 posted on 02/22/2010 11:33:39 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The foolish consistency that is the hobgoblin of a small mind.

Interesting that you would choose to quote a bisexual :-)
150 posted on 02/22/2010 11:34:36 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: DesertRenegade

As a movement it redefines the Bible, sexual propriety, marriage (in both who is joined and as re. monogamy) so “conservative” is not an obstacle. Sadly, some conservatives seem to agree.


151 posted on 02/22/2010 11:34:50 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

If you read their game plan, you can see it being implemented. http://www.defendthefamily.com/_docs/resources/8142838.pdf


152 posted on 02/22/2010 11:36:50 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: rbmillerjr

“They demand acceptance.”

No

They demand a nod of validation for their perversion.

They demand an endorsement of their “orientation” over any other component of their being.

They demand public attention if not outright esteem for their behavior that they proudly wear on their sleeve.

They demand the cultural dismantling of a taboo that goes against nature itself.

They demand the government be a partner in their Fascistic condemnation of anyone who dares to disagree with their agenda.

They SAY they only demand that we amend the very definition of marriage for the sake of equality. But it has never been about something that they want to GAIN. It’s all about what they want to DEPRIVE us of.

And they’ve gotten most of their agenda handed them in the last 10 years. If they get their way, the GENDER of our children’s choice of a mate will be of no consideration or consequence.

Gayness is the antithesis of conservatism. Being void of self-constraint, homosexuality is an inherently liberal trait. Conservatives and gays will never be able to peacefully co-exist. And I’m quite comfortable ceding that demographic to the other side.


153 posted on 02/22/2010 11:37:32 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: mamelukesabre

Certainly there is a vast difference between having a fault you are seeking to overcome, versus justifying and promoting it, but GoProud is seeking to do the latter, and even will require others to do so.


154 posted on 02/22/2010 11:39:34 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: ansel12

More than George (http://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexuality_laws), but these must be disallowed as they were obviously imposing their religion. And so there goes laws against polygamy, bestiality, and the like. Such conservatism will lead to anarchy,or loss of basic freedoms.


155 posted on 02/22/2010 11:44:38 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Even a blind pig sometimes gets an acorn.


156 posted on 02/22/2010 11:47:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: rbmillerjr
The reality is that they are making homosexual demands of an ideology to take to a political party, thus to demand of government.

I agree when they want codification of homosexuality. Let's stipulate that was the case in this instance.

However, if you seek lower taxes, are you not making a "demand of government"? Conservatism, as modernly defined, is not continuous defense of the status quo, or do you think so?

Homosexuals who oppose government oppression and government action beyond that entitled everyone on a rational basis, and identify themselves as such and find themselves welcomed on that basis, can do as much for defusing the homosexual agenda as Black conservatives can for dismantling the welfare state. The opposite drives them necessarily into the arms of the left just for self-preservation.
157 posted on 02/22/2010 11:48:10 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: little jeremiah

Late here also. Be back in the morning. Oh its already morning.


158 posted on 02/22/2010 11:48:23 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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To: daniel1212

In Spain we already see the critters being officially brought into the act.


159 posted on 02/22/2010 11:48:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: little jeremiah

Which is better than selling out tomorrow.


160 posted on 02/22/2010 11:49:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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