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Governors want "into the game" on healthcare (Too Late! Should have spoken up sooner)
Reuters ^ | 2/21/2010 | reuters

Posted on 02/21/2010 3:15:25 PM PST by tobyhill

The governors, who have been meeting in the U.S. capital this weekend, will make their case to Obama on Monday that some reform proposals could deepen the budget woes that many states face.

On the other hand, they also fear that doing nothing will also worsen their financial situations.

The meeting with Obama comes on the same day that the president is expected to unveil new proposals to advance legislation to change the country's $2.5 trillion healthcare system. On Thursday, he will hold a televised summit with Republicans to discuss ways to break the logjam.

The reform effort stalled in January when Republicans won a Senate seat from Massachusetts, giving them the 41 votes needed to block legislation with procedural barriers.

"We're going to be the ones saddled with fixing this problem," said West Virginia Governor Joe Manchin, a Democrat, during a roundtable at the National Governors Association meeting. "We're saying, get us into the game."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; obama; obamacare; romney; romneycare; romneydeathpanels; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 02/21/2010 3:15:25 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Frankly I think all these insurance companies going for an instant 39% increase in fees are coordinating with Obama to push for socialized medicine.

Having only the government pay would make bigger payments to them an d they could fire their billing department.


2 posted on 02/21/2010 3:17:37 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: tobyhill

Vote both parties out. They both are fiscally IRRESPONSIBLE. The Gelding Old Party are spineless Socialist-lite. THE US IS BROKE, idiots.


3 posted on 02/21/2010 3:18:38 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: A CA Guy

“Frankly I think all these insurance companies going for an instant 39% increase in fees are coordinating with Obama to push for socialized medicine.”

That is exactly what I was thinking. They are in cahoots with Obama.


4 posted on 02/21/2010 3:20:15 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: tobyhill

5 posted on 02/21/2010 3:22:52 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: A CA Guy

From Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(United_States)

Since the beginning of the Medicare program, CMS (Center for Medicare & Medicaid Services) has contracted with private companies to operate as intermediaries between the government and medical providers. These contractors are commonly already in the insurance or health care area. Contracted processes include claims and payment processing, call center services, clinician enrollment, and fraud investigation.
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These contractors fall under State supervision - so there is huge funding involved. You have stumbled on the mother lode. This will be a fight for territory. Maybe the Dems have determined there has to be some *across State lines* component to their takeover.


6 posted on 02/21/2010 3:25:08 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: tobyhill
On the other hand, they also fear that doing nothing will also worsen their financial situations.

The voters are going to do something in November. Just continue to hold on.

7 posted on 02/21/2010 3:26:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: A CA Guy

That’s exactly what that was. The problem is that even when the Rats force this crap through, health insurance premiums will continue to go up but they’ll claim “not as much without the bill”.
I have private insurance and in the past 5 years my premium increased from $163 a month to now $192 a month. Not bad.


8 posted on 02/21/2010 3:27:47 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: FlingWingFlyer

All the voters need to do is make sure our newly elected Congress is really for the people.


9 posted on 02/21/2010 3:34:33 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: tobyhill

The laboratories of democracy have become the stomping grounds for socialists.


10 posted on 02/21/2010 3:36:17 PM PST by PGalt
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To: VRWC For Truth

Medicaid is and always was a fools idea. When are we going to teach personal responsibility and hold people accountable.

How do people who have never paid into Soc Sec, and are not currently insured as per the definition get into this medicaid deal through low or no income?

Why are young people on the program? This is interesting.

http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102216024.html


11 posted on 02/21/2010 4:21:35 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: A CA Guy
Frankly I think all these insurance companies going for an instant 39% increase in fees are coordinating with Obama to push for socialized medicine.

Yes exactly!!! Doesn't it seem counterproductive of the insurance companies -- and haven't they been awfully meek as lambs when obummer is supposedly roaring in their direction? -- to be raising their fees just when the populace is turning away from government regulated "insurance" reform mandates (euphemisms non withstanding!)???

Wouldn't it have been more prudent of them to keep their heads down at this time and keep the rates as low as possible and their services efficient and amenable???

Maybe not!

In this topsy-turvey world of ours, what I have learned most is that when an obummer type politician tells you it's white, you know it must be black and vice versa.

12 posted on 02/21/2010 4:47:28 PM PST by parisa
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To: tobyhill
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

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The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware.

13 posted on 02/21/2010 5:44:50 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: A CA Guy
re: Frankly I think all these insurance companies going for an instant 39% increase in fees are coordinating with Obama to push for socialized medicine.)))

If they did, it would have left a trail--

14 posted on 02/21/2010 7:09:13 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

It’s amazing that they are doing it, so there has to be coordination between them IMO.


15 posted on 02/22/2010 7:20:07 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: tobyhill

My 30 year old wife’s insurance here in CA will go up from $900 to $1400 and out baby will go up from $105 tp $150.

Go figure.


16 posted on 02/22/2010 7:22:03 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: tobyhill

My 30 year old wife’s insurance here in CA will go up from $900 to $1400 and out baby will go up from $105 tp $150.

Go figure.


17 posted on 02/22/2010 7:22:03 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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