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The instructor is supposed to certify that the student can safely handle a pistol. This is often ignored. The reason is that the application for the carry permit has the student swear that he complied with the requirements. The instructor is off the hook. He can say that it’s not his fault the student didn’t get it; the student should have said he didn’t understand instead of signing the form.

There was a scandal a year and a half ago. Instructors were giving the permit lecture at gun shows, then meeting the students at a local range. The instructor loaded a pistol, closed the slide, handed it to the student, and told him to fire one shot. The student handed the (still loaded) pistol to the instructor and was sent on his way with a passing grade. Next . . .

When this was discovered, the instructors had their credentials revoked. The students were told to take another class. I would personally enjoy publicly humiliating these instructors. They’re irresponsible scum, and it’s a miracle that no one has been killed on account of their conduct. The hammer will drop in Florida, and not soon enough. It’s going to be pretty nasty when it happens, but it is long overdue. We see people with gun show carry permits every day. Most of them have no idea how ignorant, and dangerous, they are.


76 posted on 02/21/2010 4:50:50 PM PST by sig226 (Bring back Jimmy Carter!)
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When this was discovered, the instructors had their credentials revoked. The students were told to take another class. I would personally enjoy publicly humiliating these instructors. They’re irresponsible scum, and it’s a miracle that no one has been killed on account of their conduct. The hammer will drop in Florida, and not soon enough. It’s going to be pretty nasty when it happens, but it is long overdue. We see people with gun show carry permits every day. Most of them have no idea how ignorant, and dangerous, they are.

Ok, so why don't you tell us what the accidental discharge rate is in Florida among licensed holders and compare that to a state that requires no permit to carry(I believe that is Vermont of all states)and other states that require no training before obtaining a permit(I believe there are several).

Last I heard accidental shootings were no worse in FL than they are in any other state, in fact I understand that since the CCW was made easier to get in FL(1987 I think)the crime rate has dropped rather dramatically.

So what do you base your hysterical rant about easy to obtain permits being dangerous on? People like you belong at DU because you are certainly no conservative. When I was young, people in my state needed no class to obtain a permit, they could also carry openly. Accidents were no worse among people who carried than they are now. Classes are just another attempt to disarm us by making it more difficult to get a permit. Being required to have a permit is bad enough, having to take a 16 hour class(as is required in CA for example)to obtain one(if you are ever even issued one) is beyond the pale.

I am all for firearms safety but permit classes are an infringement on our rights as are permits themselves.

87 posted on 02/22/2010 5:45:08 AM PST by calex59
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